Horthy Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 I gave SC another try as the allies yesterday, and came up with an idea. I had tried to show some aggressivenes by counterattacking into southern Germany or a naval invasion of northern Germany, and both ended with little gain and much loss of life. So, while holding on by my fingernails in France, I invaded Norway straight away, using the 2 corps in the UK, Gen. Alexander as well as the Canadian Army. The Royal Navy and Bomber command gave support. Smashing the Kriegsmarine was no problem at all, and my troops landed around Oslo. The city was quickly surrounded and repeatedly attacked, yet I couldn't quite defeat the german defenders. Then, the Germans broke through the Maginot line, threatening Paris - France was doomed. Therefore I operationally moved the BEF to Brest and navally moved it to Norway. Oslo was finally taken by 2 armies and 2 corps & HQ. Taking the western town (Bergen, I think), then was easy. In my opinion, this is an interesting tactic for the Brits. The biggest advantage: you get quite a few MPPs and take away from Germany's, while Germany can't (and won't) do much to stop you, save reinforcing it's corps. Also, your units gain some experience. Of course, it also makes the battle of France harder for you, so it comes down to a judgement call. Strategic advantages are limited: It makes a german invasion of Sweden much harder, and makes an allied invasion of that country possible. It probably is not much good for as a base for attacks on the german mainland. One question I have is this: On taking Oslo, I got the message "Allies liberate Norway". This had no influence whatsoever on the map, the German corps in Bergen was still there. So is there anything behind that message save "flavour"? One thing I don't like is the placement of port hexes. They make shore bombardment on some cities much more difficult, if not impossible - and for no apparent reason. Why make an extra hex where naval movement is prohibited? Wouldn't it be possible to make port-cities where land units could be directly placed (and then attacked by sea)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hale Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Originally posted by Horthy: One thing I don't like is the placement of port hexes. They make shore bombardment on some cities much more difficult, if not impossible - and for no apparent reason. Why make an extra hex where naval movement is prohibited? Wouldn't it be possible to make port-cities where land units could be directly placed (and then attacked by sea)?[/QB]Ditto, I hate this when I play Axis, since I can't take use my Gunships to bomb the citiy of alexandria or Gibraltar.... T.Sr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloid Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Agree on the bombardment issue... Also, during that invasion, bring a carrier for air strikes, and if you still have that bomber unit, fly it North to aid in the attack. Aloid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 I have always had this idea of possible intervention in Norway in mind, but since playing both sides in the Demo, I wonder... If you as the Brit commander do commit a force substantial enough to clear Norway -- what is left to defend Britain? A few merry dairy-maids plucking at flowers high up on the cliffs of Dover? :eek: I'm not sure that Britain would have enough MPPs to effectively dare excursions until later in the War? Nevertheless, a good potential strategem to keep the Germans thinking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 One question I have is this: On taking Oslo, I got the message "Allies liberate Norway". This had no influence whatsoever on the map, the German corps in Bergen was still there. So is there anything behind that message save "flavour"? Liberation is a little different than conquering a country, what will happen is that the Liberated country will become a full fledged minor, be it Axis or Allied depending on who is liberating and who had occupied of course, but previous occupying forces will have to mopped up as they do not automatically surrender. Occupied territory will also have to be mopped up, but in the meantime you will collect MPP's for the territory that has been liberated denying your enemy of his previous spoils Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horthy Posted June 15, 2002 Author Share Posted June 15, 2002 @ Immer Etwas Actually I did this while spending my MPPs on technology, so there would still be some reserves left. Also, against a computer opponent, you don't have to worry about an invasion (yet). And even against a human opponent, Norway might be feasible. Defend southern England with a few corps, should he venture into the channel, the Royal Navy plus the tac air you should have preserved from France will slaughter his transports. @ Mr. Carter So, I only getthe MPPs when I have liberated the country, not when I get take the town? For Example, if I took Bergen first, I wouldn't have got the MPPs until I take Oslo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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