Kuniworth Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Long ago Hueristic moved the UK strategic bomber to copenhagen to bomb the axis fleet. It was great thinking that needs to be renewed. My allied gambit suggests that you move the polish air to Copenhagen in Turn 1. The copenhagen corps stations outside the city. And the cost is only 40 MMP. This will give you many advantages. - German player must hit your polish air with an army on turn 1 to quickly reduce polish air strength. That will save time hopefully for polish units to entrench. - Copenhagen corps can reinforce to 6 instead of 5. Possible makin axis have to use air to reduce corps strength which will help France a lot during the critical first turns. - The polish air can hit the german fleet on turn 2. 1-2 hits are enough to regain the 40 MMP cost for the operational movement. - the german ships must move north of Copenhagen to be able to hit the corps with both ships. This may bring the northern ship out of the range of the german airfleets. Feel free to try it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 I really don't know what you are talking about.. Why would Denmark be in the war on Turn one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuniworth Posted July 25, 2003 Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 Axis always declare war on Denmark turn 1 to train their fleet with land bombardment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJohn Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 "Why would Denmark be in the war on Turn one?" -- Night An outlet for pent-up aggressions, or perhaps to escape the oppressive peace that always enslaved them and made life so drab and hum-drum. [ July 25, 2003, 02:46 PM: Message edited by: JerseyJohn ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 LoL Kuniworth, on the off chance that the Axis want to train thier fleets on turn one next time I play, I'll remember this strat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuniworth Posted July 25, 2003 Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 Night I guess you must be new. This is no joke, happens in EVERY TCP/IP game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hueristic Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 How Embarrising to be quoted in the same breath as Buckaroo Bonzai. I think that was Rambo Kuni The only place I operate Bomber units to usually is Malta. Yes Night Denmark is a great training ground for axis fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJohn Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 A movie that showed coming attractions for it's sequel during the closing credits, then never realeased the damn thing! Ah, The Lost Adventures of Buckaroo Bonzai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oak Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Can it be?!? A good idea from Kuniworth? Yes, indeed! I believe that Kuniworth has a good idea worth exploring here. I'm not sure that this move qualifies as a 'gambit' but it is a move that would certainly slow down the Axis assault on Denmark and could result in the German fleet losing rather than gaining. Another option I've seen is to operate the Polish air fleet to France and use it to intercept attacks on Brussels. However, that is only really useful if it appears that Germany did not move enough units west to ensure the taking of Brussels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oak Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Can it be?!? A good idea from Kuniworth? Yes, indeed! I believe that Kuniworth has a good idea worth exploring here. I'm not sure that this move qualifies as a 'gambit' but it is a move that would certainly slow down the Axis assault on Denmark and could result in the German fleet losing rather than gaining. You could really make life interesting for the Axis by putting the French air fleet in Copenhagen and the Polish air fleet next to Copenhagen, giving the Allies 2 air fleets in Denmark. The French one could outlive the fall of Poland. Another option I've seen is to operate the Polish air fleet to France and use it to intercept attacks on Brussels. However, that is only really useful if it appears that Germany did not move enough units west to ensure the taking of Brussels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 It can be fun against the rookies. Play the Top Player's in the World...it ain't worth it. [ July 26, 2003, 01:49 AM: Message edited by: jon_j_rambo ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oak Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 If it was something likely to create problems for experienced players then experienced players would already be doing it. However, it is likely to baffle and perplex newer players playing Axis ... giving an advantage to the Allies and the potential for inflicting some damage on the Axis fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terif Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Oak: Yes, trying different things can be a lot of fun. Especially against newer players you can give it a try, they are not prepared for it and can be thrown out of concept. Its also good and fun for them, when they learn to counter non-standard moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oak Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Terif, I am curious. What would you do if the Allies operated the Polish air fleet to Copenhagen? Let's hear from the Master. Oak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terif Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 I have my airfleets ready to kill the airfleet the next turn and then you can transport a corps immediately into copenhagen (one ship in Kiel port, then you can load and unload the same turn), so Denmark surrenders. Or I first take LC and then kill the airfleet the next turn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuniworth Posted July 26, 2003 Author Share Posted July 26, 2003 If you use this would depend on if Wehrmacht strike polish air in Poland. If it don´t - feel free to move it to Copenhagen. 1 air may not be enough to kill it, 2 air is of course enough but that will make dutch gambit more difficult and save more french troops. Oh and if Germany likes to put a transport in Kiel and perhaps use 12 MMP just to move it - go ahead. That would either mean that Polish forces survives a bit longer or that the ardennes or the belgian coast is left undefended after LC is captured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuniworth Posted July 26, 2003 Author Share Posted July 26, 2003 Oh and you will of course be able to see if axis is start advancing into Denmark. In that case they are most certainly not affording an amphibious invasion from Kiel. If they are not advancing dont try this gambit. [ July 26, 2003, 07:54 AM: Message edited by: Kuniworth ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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