lcm1947 Posted June 6, 2001 Author Share Posted June 6, 2001 Well I am surpised. I actually kind of thought it would be Western Front all the way. Thanks for the answers and some interesting information. Over 13 million German's lost. WoW! I had no idea. Looking at those figures makes you wonder what would have happened had Germany not taken on two fronts. Or maybe there's no wondering to it. Thanks again. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipper Posted June 6, 2001 Share Posted June 6, 2001 What do you mean "eastern front"? Ahh, you must be talking about liberation of China, Mongolia and North Korea in August 1945. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yank Posted June 7, 2001 Share Posted June 7, 2001 I admit the eastern front isn't my best subject,But the book I'm looking at now says Germany had 10 million military personnel with 3,300,000 killed and missing.The Russians had 20 million military personnel with 13,600,000 killed and 5 million wounded.Is this book wrong? The author is Robert Goralski, I really hate to be misinformed :confused: Oh and it doesn't list the number of German wounded.Please I'm not trying to pick a fight I just want to know for future reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalin's Organ Posted June 7, 2001 Share Posted June 7, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Yank: I But the book I'm looking at now says Germany had 10 million military personnel with 3,300,000 killed and missing.The Russians had 20 million military personnel with 13,600,000 killed and 5 million wounded.Is this book wrong? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> It's probably as close a guess as anyone's going to get. Add in a number for Finns, Romanians, Hungarians, Italians, Slovaks, Spanish and the like to the German numbers too. And my vote is for East Front - why would I want 2 games dealing with the west front????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted June 7, 2001 Share Posted June 7, 2001 East. The decisive battles are there, first of all. And the scope and variety of the actions are much greater, which increases interest and replay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massimorocca Posted June 7, 2001 Share Posted June 7, 2001 German permanent losses (dead missed or disabled) 11.135.800 (including 6.035.000 wounded). German POW on Eastern front2.389.600 Axis losses on the eastern front 959.000 dead and missing, 766800 POW. Russian Losses, dead missed or captured 11.285.057 wounded sick or frostbitten 18.344.148. Source Glantz When Titans clashed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted June 7, 2001 Share Posted June 7, 2001 I don't think that the Russian figure includes civilians - Beevor offers a final total of 26 million, including civilians, for the Russians. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massimorocca Posted June 7, 2001 Share Posted June 7, 2001 Yap Glantz are only military casualties. And 96500 tanks and sp guns lost, 218.000 guns and mortars 88.300 aircrafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipper Posted June 7, 2001 Share Posted June 7, 2001 > But the book I'm looking at now says > Germany had 10 million military personnel > with 3,300,000 killed and missing. Throughout WWII USSR mobilised 34.5 million people to the armed service, and Germany mobilised 21.0 millon people. Soviet irredeemable military losses were, indeed, 11.4 mln people; 11.9 mln counting those who were mobilised but never reached their assigned units in 1941. At the time of german capitulation, there were 4.1 million german soldiers in active service and another 0.7 million in hospitals. 16.3 million were out of service this way or another. 11.8 mln of these were irredeemable losses (4.4 mln dead, 7.4 mln POWs). Over 2/3 of these were lost in the Eastern front. Plus there were minor axis powers and Japan. For accuracy sake, there were also minor allies powers in the eastern front, such as Vojsko Polskoe and Normandy-Neman GvIAP. > I don't think that the Russian figure > includes civilians - Beevor offers a final > total of 26 million, including civilians, > for the Russians. This 26 million figure is a separate matter altogether. This is population loss (ie, only those who died or left the country). On the contrary, irredeemable military losses include quite a lot (3 mln) of those who were reported dead or missing and were later found this way or another. Source: Col.-Gen. G.F. Krivoshein, report to the session of WWII Historians Association, 29.12.98. [ 06-07-2001: Message edited by: Skipper ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcm1947 Posted June 7, 2001 Author Share Posted June 7, 2001 Well, I've got to ask. Anybody know how many American lives were lost? How about the Brits? I don't suppose nearly as many but I thought American's were like 500,000. Comparing with the other figures I may be all wet. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spook Posted June 7, 2001 Share Posted June 7, 2001 Restricting to war dead, US losses were about 410,000, out of which combat-related losses (KIA) were about 292,000. I don't know for Britain in specific, but I THINK that total war dead for the Commonwealth forces (combat & other causes) was about 450,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcm1947 Posted June 8, 2001 Author Share Posted June 8, 2001 Thanks Spook. So I was close. I thought maybe I was wrong after hearing the numbers on Germany and Russia but the old memory is still working. I guess Germany and Russia didn't like each other to much, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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