JOCHEN PEIPER Posted July 25, 2000 Share Posted July 25, 2000 I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHO OWNS THOSE TIGERS FROM THAT MOVIE... HE SURE WAS GOOD TO LET THEM THROW THEM ABOUT LIKE THAT... I KNOW IF I OWNED THEM THEY WOULD BE IN COTTON WOOL IN MY GARAGE... AND I WOULD LIVE IN IT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCrawler Posted July 25, 2000 Share Posted July 25, 2000 I believe that the 'Tiger' was actually a dressed-up T-34... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncounio Posted July 25, 2000 Share Posted July 25, 2000 Actually it was !!! But the matter ha been discussed a zillion time on this forum (Vote for the SS : Search Supporters ) There are very few operationnal german tanks from WWII Big pieces like Tiger I and II are rare. BTW Jochen is your Capslock broken , felt like you are yelling at us! ------------------ Nicolas "Deux intellectuels assis vont moins loin qu'une brute qui marche" Un Taxi Pour Tobrouk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwood Posted July 25, 2000 Share Posted July 25, 2000 I can recall reading somewhere that there is a fella in Oz that supplies working WW2 tanks to the movie makers. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCHEN PEIPER Posted July 25, 2000 Author Share Posted July 25, 2000 So was it a TIGER or just a T-34 with a dress on... I JUST PLAYED THE SCENE WHERE THEY BLOW THE TRACK OFF THE TIGER come to think of it the track shape looks alot T-34ish and the turret looks set too far forward to be a tiger... mmm!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacestick Posted July 25, 2000 Share Posted July 25, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blackwood: I can recall reading somewhere that there is a fella in Oz that supplies working WW2 tanks to the movie makers. Ron<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> You are probably thinking about the tanks in "courage under fire". They were sourced from Australia and were retired aussie centurians dressed up to look the part. I seem to remember reading the movie company had to do this because the deal they had to use real Abrams fell through because the movie depicted the military covering up blue on blue contact and we all know blue on blue ****fights never happen and if they did, noone would ever lie about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windstarz Posted July 25, 2000 Share Posted July 25, 2000 Friendly fire is another beautiful military term. CYA is the number one thing in the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper Posted July 25, 2000 Share Posted July 25, 2000 At least one of the psuedo-tigers (T-34s)from Ryan is on display at the Royal Armored Corps Museum in Bovington, at least it was there last time I visited. NTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncounio Posted July 25, 2000 Share Posted July 25, 2000 To see the REAL ONES drop to SAUMUR, France or peek at http://www.musee-des-blindes.asso.fr/ ------------------ Nicolas "Deux intellectuels assis vont moins loin qu'une brute qui marche" Un Taxi Pour Tobrouk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airborne Posted July 25, 2000 Share Posted July 25, 2000 When I first saw "Ryan" I was (of course) blown away by everything. THen I noticed that the 'Tigers' had the drive sprockets at the rear--not in front as on an actual Mk VI. Still it was awesome. ----Chris ------------------ Land Soft--Kill Quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntelWeenie Posted July 25, 2000 Share Posted July 25, 2000 I thought the best part of SPR's Tigers was the way they shook the ground. Pretty ominous... ------------------ "Belly to belly and everything's better" - Russian proverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaffertape Posted July 25, 2000 Share Posted July 25, 2000 Even knowing they were mock-ups I was thoroughly impressed with the effort on the SPR T34 Tigers. GAFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple4Ever Posted July 25, 2000 Share Posted July 25, 2000 Were they the same "Tigers" used in Kelly's Heroes? I believe those were also T-34's "dressed-up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper Posted July 25, 2000 Share Posted July 25, 2000 Bovington also has a real Tiger 1, so you can compare sizes of the original and the mockup. (Mockup is tiny in comparison). Besides, the British one (Which has a GB car sticker on the back!) is undergoing automotive restoration, which I don't believe can be said for the French example. You sure about the sprocket wheel at the back? A T-34 doesn't have a sprocket wheel, it uses rollers in the drivewheel which engage the track guides. I've been told that the Kelly's Heroes 'tigers' were different T-34s.. I don't know where they are. NTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsinO Posted July 25, 2000 Share Posted July 25, 2000 I was reading a book at the library about Tigre's, and I think it said that there is only 1 King Tiger (or just Tiger?) left that is Operational in Europe or something like that. I may be wrong ------------------ ¤§ïѤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airborne Posted July 26, 2000 Share Posted July 26, 2000 "You sure about the sprocket wheel at the back? A T-34 doesn't have a sprocket wheel, it uses rollers in the drivewheel which engage the track guides." Positive. I'm staring at a 1/35th scale model of a Tiger I I made. The main drive sprockets are in the front. In the back are the small bogie wheels. In the movie, the drive sprocket is in the back--as in a T-34. -------Chris ------------------ Land Soft--Kill Quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bad Ju Ju Posted July 26, 2000 Share Posted July 26, 2000 Ahhh....used to read "Military Modeler" and spend hours as a kid with 1/35 scale WWII models.....Wonder if I can get my almost seven-year old interested in this again? Anyone tempted to get out the airbrush and glue? ------------------ "I didn't go to evil medical school for six years to be called MR. Evil." Dr. Evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper Posted July 26, 2000 Share Posted July 26, 2000 I'm not querying if the Tiger has the sprocket wheel on the front or not, I'm querying if the T-34 had a sprocket wheel at the back. Last I checked, the T-34 was fairly unique amongst tanks as to not having a sprocket wheel anywhere. That's right, no projections from the wheel interlinking with the track. Instead, the projections from the track slotted into the drivewheel's rollers. This meant there was much reduced friction, and no damageable teeth on the wheel. I've no clue why the system was never incorporated into any other vehicles. NTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Merchant Posted July 26, 2000 Share Posted July 26, 2000 Check out the Bovington Tiger! I saw it in pieces a few years ago, but it's going to be operational in the future. Gotta get back there when it's up and running! http://www.tiger-tank.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncounio Posted July 26, 2000 Share Posted July 26, 2000 Well I do not know for the Tiger I but the King Tiger is fully restored and has participated in the 1999 Caroussel with numerous other WWII and WWI vintage tanks. Impressive show scheduled every mid-july a must go if you are in the Loire area ------------------ Nicolas "Deux intellectuels assis vont moins loin qu'une brute qui marche" Un Taxi Pour Tobrouk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Michael emrys Posted July 26, 2000 Share Posted July 26, 2000 One night quite a few years back I caught the last 20 minutes or so of The Battle of the River Drava (if that's the correct title). In addition to some obviously faked-out German tanks, they had at least one Tiger that looked to me to be the real thing. I'd love to see the movie all the way through sometime and check whether I IDed it correctly. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airborne Posted July 26, 2000 Share Posted July 26, 2000 Trooper, I think you are right-sorry. I checked some armor books I have and it does look like the T34 series did not have a drive sprocket--although the pictures aren't very clear. ------------------ Land Soft--Kill Quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipper Posted July 26, 2000 Share Posted July 26, 2000 Hell anyone with a skill saw an some plywood could turn a volkswagon into a tiger just take a little effort an it be tough to tell the difference on camera dont no why hollywood didnt do that from the start they really coulda juiced up some great movies from the past...like a "bridge too far" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Aitken Posted July 26, 2000 Share Posted July 26, 2000 > Anyone tempted to get out the airbrush and glue? Not until someone works out the age-old problem: paint first, and the glue will strip the paint - or glue first, and you can't get at all the bits to paint them. And the other one: a model kit which doesn't collect dust (models are impossible to dust), and won't shed scores of tiny details when it takes a knock. Model kits are nothing but a liability. I used to have shelves of them (none particularly well made), but I took great pleasure in junking them during my Great Clearout (a monumental event recorded in most British newspapers at the time) a few years back. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Aitken Posted July 26, 2000 Share Posted July 26, 2000 > coulda juiced up some great movies from the past...like a "bridge too far" The Battle Of The Bulge (besides being totally fanciful) was dealt a death-blow by the use of thoroughly un-Tiger-like US tanks. (What are they called? Pattons? I haven't much of a clue about post-war tanks). Second World War tanks were so distinctive that, while to the lay person a tank is a tank, to anyone who knows the difference the use of the wrong tanks completely destroys a film. And as for expecting us to believe Sherman Fireflies are actually Tigers in The Big Red One... they might as well have used milk floats, for all the similarity. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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