ALBY Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 The MRB and FSE are in the formation editor. I’m curious in CM terms, what formation is recommended for use as a the recon echelon ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domfluff Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 The recce formation in the editor are a good representation of the higher level recce assets (so regimental or divisional). The formation recce would have been made up of the battalion, so (as in the above video), I just pinched a platoon from the Forward Security Element and used that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Whisky Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 On 1/12/2023 at 12:51 PM, ALBY said: This is not as easy as it looks. One of my PBEM opponents is shooting up my MRB as I write this. My addition to the topic here is that the ‘psychological’ aspect of CM is HUGE! I am taking losses and it is causing me to slow or change plans which you cannot do with the Soviets. failing forward I guess. At least my opponent is having fun with the target practice. Oh yes I can confirm this. Not having seen two tanks behind a patch of trees basicly cost me a company. I'm starting to understand why Domfluff puts as many points into artillery as he does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotte Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Outstanding video, hats off to you gents. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Whisky Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) At the end of my last video I promised to upload the bits of the conversation that @domfluff and I had and that didn't make it into the video, as a podcast. That's up now. Also included is an extra bit that we recorded later, where we answer some of the questions that were frequently asked in the comment section. So, if you've got a long commute ahead of you, or it's your turn to do the dishes, or there is some other reason why you can't play CM.... here you go . Edited January 20, 2023 by Free Whisky 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady_Side Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 This is a great video. It is very helpful in understanding how the Soviet forces were designed to be used. I would love to see a similar one done for the Russians in CMBS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simcoe Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Free Whisky said: At the end of my last video I promised to upload the bits of the conversation that @domfluff and I had and that didn't make it into the video, as a podcast. That's up now. Also included is an extra bit that we recorded later, where we answer some of the questions that were frequently asked in the comment section. So, if you've got a long commute ahead of you, or it's your turn to do the dishes, or there is some other reason why you can't play CM.... here you go . Really interesting conversation. The tests you did on T-62’s vs M60’s was eye opening. The M60 won 8/10 at “close range” and 9/10 at “long range”. Those are not good odds. Another test would be groups of T62’s vs single M60’s. How many tanks can an M60 take out before the T62’s take it out. Do numbers really even out spotting? Edited January 20, 2023 by Simcoe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratdeath Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) Love the podcast @Free Whisky & @domfluff @Simcoe I did a quick test platoon vs company. Smoke from burning tanks are a problem for spotting!! Platoon M60A1 (Rise+) (5 tanks) vs Company T-62 (1975) (Opened up) (10 tanks) Round1, after 2 minutes, five destroyed M60 and five destroyed T-62. Round2, after 2 minutes, four destroyed M60 and seven destroyed T-62. Round3, after 2 minutes, five destroyed M60 and six destroyed T-62. Round 4, after 2 minutes, three destroyed M60 and eight destroyed T-62. Edited January 20, 2023 by ratdeath 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callada Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I think if Hapless and Free Whisky knew how many times I have watched some of their videos they would be a little bit frightened. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simcoe Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 hours ago, ratdeath said: Love the podcast @Free Whisky & @domfluff @Simcoe I did a quick test platoon vs company. Smoke from burning tanks are a problem for spotting!! Platoon M60A1 (Rise+) (5 tanks) vs Company T-62 (1975) (Opened up) (10 tanks) Round1, after 2 minutes, five destroyed M60 and five destroyed T-62. Round2, after 2 minutes, four destroyed M60 and seven destroyed T-62. Round3, after 2 minutes, five destroyed M60 and six destroyed T-62. Round 4, after 2 minutes, three destroyed M60 and eight destroyed T-62. Great work! Would you be able to do a platoon of T-62 against one M60? It might counteract the smoke issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdontknowhowtodoX Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 8 hours ago, ratdeath said: Love the podcast @Free Whisky & @domfluff @Simcoe I did a quick test platoon vs company. Smoke from burning tanks are a problem for spotting!! Platoon M60A1 (Rise+) (5 tanks) vs Company T-62 (1975) (Opened up) (10 tanks) Round1, after 2 minutes, five destroyed M60 and five destroyed T-62. Round2, after 2 minutes, four destroyed M60 and seven destroyed T-62. Round3, after 2 minutes, five destroyed M60 and six destroyed T-62. Round 4, after 2 minutes, three destroyed M60 and eight destroyed T-62. How far is the distance between the M60 and the T62? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratdeath Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 2 hours ago, IdontknowhowtodoX said: How far is the distance between the M60 and the T62? 500 m 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdontknowhowtodoX Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, ratdeath said: 500 m Round 4 is harsh. It seems that even at close range, the T62 needs to rely on numbers to overwhelm the M60. Even with a 2:1 advantage, there is no guarantee of victory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domfluff Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I do have some issues with that testing method, or what it's actually showing, but it's interesting. Like many things in that vein, I do think it's worth being extremely cautious what lessons you're extracting from it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratdeath Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, domfluff said: I do have some issues with that testing method, or what it's actually showing, but it's interesting. Like many things in that vein, I do think it's worth being extremely cautious what lessons you're extracting from it. I agree, it's mostly for fun Doesn't really tell us the whole truth (much less any real life comparison). The battlefield is much more complex than x number of tanks having a duel! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdontknowhowtodoX Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, ratdeath said: I agree, it's mostly for fun Doesn't really tell us the whole truth (much less any real life comparison). The battlefield is much more complex than x number of tanks having a duel! Indeed. Sample size too small. Battlefield is more complex. T-62 can do better with the help of C2. However for the soviet, close-ranged tank warfare in open terrain was desirable. If you can't win(like Round 4) under such condition, it really does hurt. It could be seen as a test of the commander's will once it happens. Edited January 21, 2023 by IdontknowhowtodoX 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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