Steve_R Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Recently a program called Bottles was released that allows Window's games to be played under Linux. Many of the Battlefront Games carry the notation: "The game does not work in a virtualized environment (virtual machine)". I'm looking forward to buying a Battlefront game, but before I buy I have two questions: 1) Does Bottles constitute a virtual machine? 2) Has anyone used Bottles with a Battlefront game? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Strike Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 9 hours ago, Steve_R said: Recently a program called Bottles was released that allows Window's games to be played under Linux. Many of the Battlefront Games carry the notation: "The game does not work in a virtualized environment (virtual machine)". I'm looking forward to buying a Battlefront game, but before I buy I have two questions: 1) Does Bottles constitute a virtual machine? 2) Has anyone used Bottles with a Battlefront game? I have used an app called Wine on MacOS which uses bottles for individual Windows apps. I did have the CMRT demo installed and running a few years ago. From my fuzzy memory it ran passably, graphics performance was the biggest compromised part, but it was playable with smaller scenarios. Have you downloaded a demo to try first? If my memory is correct that was a part of my motivation for trying Wine in the first place, for some reason I couldn't get the CMRT demo to install under MacOS, but was able to do so with Wine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, Lucky_Strike said: I have used an app called Wine on MacOS which uses bottles for individual Windows apps. I did have the CMRT demo installed and running a few years ago. From my fuzzy memory it ran passably, graphics performance was the biggest compromised part, but it was playable with smaller scenarios. Have you downloaded a demo to try first? If my memory is correct that was a part of my motivation for trying Wine in the first place, for some reason I couldn't get the CMRT demo to install under MacOS, but was able to do so with Wine. Good, suggestion to try a demo. I had not thought of that!!! I have successfully installed and run a few games Window's games from Wargame Design Studio. Thanks for responding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Strike Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 58 minutes ago, Steve_R said: Good, suggestion to try a demo. I had not thought of that!!! I have successfully installed and run a few games Window's games from Wargame Design Studio. Thanks for responding. I just checked and unfortunately I don't have Wine installed at the moment so can't confirm if it is still working. As an aside I have also used VMWare to run various flavours of Windows with CM games installed without any major issues. Again graphics tend to suffer a bit, but on modern processors and with a decent GPU performance is not too bad and certainly playable. Convenience of not having to reboot into Windows was always a plus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 The demo version of Fortress Italy loaded under bottles but did not run. Received the error message: "Could not initialize OpenGL graphics. Please update your OpenGL drivers." I looked around the various configurations options available with bottles, but did not find an obvious way to fix. I'll make a post on the bottles forum. Any advice from this forum? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Steve_R said: The demo version of Fortress Italy loaded under bottles but did not run. Received the error message: "Could not initialize OpenGL graphics. Please update your OpenGL drivers." I looked around the various configurations options available with bottles, but did not find an obvious way to fix. I'll make a post on the bottles forum. Any advice from this forum? Assuming bottles uses Wine to actually run things. There still is a patch needed to Wine to run CMx2. Wine versions missing that will fail when initializing OpenGL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Redwolf said: Assuming bottles uses Wine to actually run things. From what I can tell, bottles is based on Wine. I will have to undertake an internet search. So far, no response from my bottles forum post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Strike Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Steve_R said: The demo version of Fortress Italy loaded under bottles but did not run. Received the error message: "Could not initialize OpenGL graphics. Please update your OpenGL drivers." I looked around the various configurations options available with bottles, but did not find an obvious way to fix. I'll make a post on the bottles forum. Any advice from this forum? 8 hours ago, Redwolf said: Assuming bottles uses Wine to actually run things. There still is a patch needed to Wine to run CMx2. Wine versions missing that will fail when initializing OpenGL. Ah yes, now that you both mention it I do recall that there was some futzing to be done for OpenGL support. All I can offer is hope - if I managed to get it running then it must be possible and not too difficult since I am an utter non-command line type of guy, I need my apps ready made and working generally. If I find any notes or remnants of installed stuff I will be sure to let you know. Edited December 13, 2022 by Lucky_Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 11 hours ago, Lucky_Strike said: Ah yes, now that you both mention it I do recall that there was some futzing to be done for OpenGL support. All I can offer is hope - if I managed to get it running then it must be possible and not too difficult since I am an utter non-command line type of guy, I need my apps ready made and working generally. If I find any notes or remnants of installed stuff I will be sure to let you know. I've had many fond memories of "rebuilding" applications and even the full operating system. I've taken to writing installation notes to minimize that headache. I'm currently using Linux Mint. So far, no response on OpenGL in the Bottles forum. Thanks for responding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 Received a reply to my post on the Bottles forum, essentially confirming that Wine does not successfully implement OpenGL. Evidently this has been a long term concern. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 The only question here is why the patch in the winehq bug is not integrated into the official wine yet. Then it would arrive in bottle over time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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