SS_PanzerLeader Posted December 23, 1999 Share Posted December 23, 1999 HI Steve and CHarles @ BTS MErry Christmas to you both Ok I had some thoughts on possible enhancements for play in CM2 Hope it is something we may see would it be possible to adjust the styles of defense to incorporate prepared defenses into a map? IE basically thre are two types of defensive battles IMHO A prepared defense and a hasty defense the prepared defense would allow for things such as purchasing dummy tanks/at guns, ratholing or destruction of buildings, additional mines laid. It would also allow for the preperation of buildings to accomodate reasonably sized AT guns ( unless of course it was a massive structure). IT would also allow for the placement of Dragons teeth etc etc. THe hasty defense seems to be what Cm1 will cover is it possible to incorporate some/all/or more of the features listed above for CM2? Thanks ------------------ SS_PanzerLeader....out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Balaban Posted December 23, 1999 Share Posted December 23, 1999 Good idea SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_PanzerLeader Posted December 23, 1999 Author Share Posted December 23, 1999 TY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Tom Posted December 23, 1999 Share Posted December 23, 1999 Well, the war in the West rarely encountered fixed positions. Other than the Metz Forts and the Segfried Line (of which only Metz offered much of a problem) there were usually just hasty defences. In CM2, if it is in the East, there will be more heavy defences. Trenches, bunkers, and dummy vehicles will abound! Indeed, it will be interesting to play the Germans and actually dread about the impregnibility of Allied armour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted December 23, 1999 Share Posted December 23, 1999 SS, Some of this you can do. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>the prepared defense would allow for things such as purchasing dummy tanks/at guns<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Not possible. This would be more of a strategic asset anyway. Dummy tanks were not used on the battle field. Their main purpose was to fool Aerial recon. I know Rommel used dummy 88s in Africa on the battlefield, maybe that will be a feature in CM3... <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>ratholing or destruction of buildings, additional mines laid<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> You can place rubble in the editor. You can also have burning buildings placed there. You can purchase and place as many mines as you want. However this is a function of the scenario designer. You may set it up though so the player can place the mines. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>allow for the preperation of buildings to accomodate reasonably sized AT guns<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Not possible unfortunately.. I would like the option to hide tanks in some buildings added also. Perhaps for CM2. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Dragons teeth<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Again, not represented. You can however place roadblocks and wire in abundance. The roadblocks would do nicely to represent dragons teeth IMO. You can with some imagination set up a pretty nasty prepared defense. Even without all the aspects you mentioned above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_PanzerLeader Posted December 24, 1999 Author Share Posted December 24, 1999 UghH Bill :-P My Suggestions are for CM2 not for this one and If we are playng an OP setting up fake positions should be an option IMHO. As far as the ratholing and stuff again I dont think u realized these were suggestions for CM2 - reread above ------------------ SS_PanzerLeader....out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonS Posted December 24, 1999 Share Posted December 24, 1999 If you re-read Bills post, what he was saying is that MOST of what you want can already be done, and that dummies were used at the strategic level, not the tactical level. Note: 'strategic' does not refer to battalion and above (despite what the title RTS on numerous games might have you believe), rather at Corps and Army level - ie many miles behind the front line. Jon ------------------ Ubique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted December 24, 1999 Share Posted December 24, 1999 Bil is a tester and knows whereof he speaks as it were Dummy installations, tanks etc were strategic considerations and not tactical considerations. They should make it into any version of CM IMO. Even the prepared defence shouldn't have them since they'd be abused in PBEM games and used in an unrealistic manner. When dummy tanks were used they were issued en masse at the command of Corps and army commanders and not spread 1 or 2 per kilometre per battalion. ------------------ ___________ Fionn Kelly Manager of Historical Research, The Gamers Net - Gaming for Gamers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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