Lee Posted September 9, 1999 Share Posted September 9, 1999 I'm using Netscape 4.61 with the check page every time option on for cache. And I even tried holding shift while I hit reload as was recommended to force a fresh reloading of the page so I can see new posts that have been put under some threads. And yet I can't see the new posts, this seems to happen in threads where I post a new message and I can't see my post or any of the others after it. For example, the thread might have 10 posts in it but I can only read 6 of them, my post will be the seventh post in the thread. Then even when I reload I won't be able to see my post or posts number 8, 9 and 10. Any ideas why that happens and what can be done to remedy it? On other message boards I don't have this problem and as soon as I post something I just hit reload and the thread updates immediately and I can see my new post. But that doesn't always work on this board and I don't know why. It's very irritating. Any ideas would be appreciated. BTW, when I post new topics like this post here I can see my post right away, no problem. I don't even have to hit reload, it shows up as soon as I submit the topic and get taken back to the board automatically. It only happens when I post to an already existing thread, whether I started the thread doesn't matter. For example, if I were to post another message in this thread, I may not be able to actually see it until a day or two later (after a couple days pass usually the thread will update for me and I can read what I have missed). [This message has been edited by Lee (edited 09-09-99).] [This message has been edited by Lee (edited 09-09-99).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Time Software Posted September 9, 1999 Share Posted September 9, 1999 Sounds like a wonderful Netscape bug I use NS 4.03 and IE 4.5 and have no problemos. I do have to refresh a lot to see new posts, but that is normal. Sounds like NS 4.61 has got some problems. In any case, we didn't make these BBS scripts so there isn't anything we can do Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted September 10, 1999 Author Share Posted September 10, 1999 Oh well, maybe when the Netscape 4.62 rev comes out the problem will go away. Odd thing is, this is the only board I can think of where this happens. Go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Beman Posted September 10, 1999 Share Posted September 10, 1999 I think it also relates to the speed of your connection? I have the same problem from home (cable modem) but, when posting from work (T1) what I type is up IMMEDIATELY. DjB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted September 10, 1999 Author Share Posted September 10, 1999 How could a cable modem not be fast enough for posting short text messages?! I didn't know you needed a T3 line to do that reliably. Seriously, I don't think that is the problem at all. These messages don't appear for days sometimes. So, speed isn't the problem. And like I said, this is the only board I can think of where this happens. I think it might have something to do with the fact that on this board you can't force refreshes on specific threads. If you hit reload it just takes you back to the main CM page. On other boards I can force fresh reloads of the specific thread I'm interested in. On those boards I can always see my posts right after I post them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted September 10, 1999 Share Posted September 10, 1999 Try clicking on a thread more than once. I have found that the first time I click, the page is loaded from HD. The second time, it grabs it off the net. I am using IE 5.0 though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Galanti Posted September 10, 1999 Share Posted September 10, 1999 Lee, I suspect that it might have to do with the frames in the page. I usually don't have a problem, but then I always open each thread into it's own window. That way, I can force a refresh if needed (and i don't have to wait for the topics page to reload). Or, as an alternative, you could open the forum up into a new window and force a refresh from there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnymo Posted September 10, 1999 Share Posted September 10, 1999 I believe cable modems typically use cacheing on the server, so what you are probably experiencing from home is that your cable provider has cached the page, and does not refresh it when you hit your refresh key (what you actually get is a refresh of the cached page, which hasn't changed, not the "real" page at Battlefront.com). All of your browsed pages are stored at the cable company servers, so even though your new message is posted and live at Battlefront.com, you can't see it because the cable company has not updated its cached page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted September 11, 1999 Author Share Posted September 11, 1999 Johnnymo, in order to use the cable company's cached files on it's servers, you have to use a special version of the browser made to work with the cable company's system. I don't use this special version, just normal Netscape. So that can't be the problem. But good thinking. Also, like I said, this doesn't happen on other boards, just here, so that would also rule out the cable company cache thing. I think it may be as Ben said, these dumb frames might be goofing something up. It would be nice if when you clicked to come to the CM board that it automatically loaded the messsage board into another seperate window. This way you could force refreshes of the CM forum specifically. I know of another board that does it this way and I can always see my posts immediately after posting and hitting reload there. [This message has been edited by Lee (edited 09-12-99).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted September 14, 1999 Author Share Posted September 14, 1999 Good news. I tried opening the CM forum in it's own window (by right clicking on the forum area of the screen and selecting "open in new window") and seeing if I could get my new posts to be updated for me right away. Well, it worked. when I opened the forum in it's own window (as opposed to leaving it in a frame), I was able to force a full reload (by holding shift while clicking reload) of the forum. And when I checked my brand new posts, they were right there to be viewed just seconds after posting them. So, that is how you fix the slow-updating-post problem if you are having it. Update: You don't even have to do a full reload of the forum. After you post your message and you get returned to the thread, just hit reload (no need to hold shift) while you are still in the thread you just posted to. This will update that thread and you will see your post. Also, I noticed that when you view the forum in it's own window you have more room for text in your post on each line. This means when typing your posts you can type maybe two full lines before having to hit enter to jump to the next line so that your post's spacing doesn't get all goofed up. This is much better than the one line and a few letters you have to use when posting to the forum from within the framed environment. I wondered how in the world some guys could post long lines of text and have the forum put in a little scroll bar so you could read the whole post, but if I tried it I would end up with my sentences all broken up. Now I know how they did it. They were typing their posts while they had the forum loaded in it's own window. DARN, I wish you guys had told us about that little trick! It would have made typing posts much less of a hassle. Anyhow, now I'm telling everyone. So everyone go load the forum in it's own seperate window and you'll be a lot happier. [This message has been edited by Lee (edited 09-14-99).] [This message has been edited by Lee (edited 09-14-99).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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