llhnickerson Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Currently in January 1942 and my Finnish units fighting near Petrozavodsk are taking casualties from the winter. If you look historically at the Finnish army, they were even more prepared for the winter than the Soviets and in fact fighting them in the first Winter War was what led the Soviets to increase winter preparation in their own army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llhnickerson Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 Even the Finns in Helsinki were seemingly affected...wtf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Hmm they shouldn't be. I will have to check this. Winter effects are an area hit not a country hit. I tried to limit where it did damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llhnickerson Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 Ah...does this mean that the Soviets take the hit as well? If it's evenly applied to both sides, then there really isn't a problem. I just figured that if the Soviets can avoid it, the Finns would definitely be able to avoid it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 No it doesn't affect Soviets. The hits affect Axis units in certain areas NOT in finland. If it is hitting the finns I might have mis-aligned an area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Which scenario and where is the X,Y of the unit affected? I checked my areas and they are correct. if your Finns are too low they will be affected (below Leningrad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llhnickerson Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 No, they weren't below Leningrad... Barbarossa to Berlin scenario. 88,4 and 91, 3 and that general area. Mannerheim himself even lost a step at 88, 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Hmmm. I wonder if the conversion messed it up there when I expanded the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llhnickerson Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 Now, I'm not familiar with the intimacies of the game code, or even that experienced at editing scenarios, but if I were trying to fix it I would focus on simply giving an exception to Finnish units. It is doubtful the winter would affect them no matter where they were fighting. But of course you have infinitely more experience/knowledge than I do about the game and only you can say whether or not that can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Cant do it by country. its done by area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlape3 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Cant do it by country. its done by area Yes and no. You can specify the alignment and you can specify the country id. In order to make this work correctly you would have to create a separate line for each country of a certain alignment. If a country was not specified then it would be immune. Just remember to always include a country id after the alignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I know but Finland is aligned with Axis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llhnickerson Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 And just to confirm, after double-checking, it does affect the Finns in Finland, including the division I have guarding Helsinki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I saw one that was in range and corrected it. Hubert is putting together a patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I fixed the top one. But the one affecting Helsinki I cant find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlape3 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I know but Finland is aligned with Axis It can still be done, it just requires more work. When you just specify the alignment then all countries in that alignment group are affected. If you specify the alignment AND country id then only the specified countries will be affected. Whether you consider the extra work worth it or not is a design decision of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 dont see how thats done or I would. strength.txt only affects 1 side not a specific country. You specify who owns event axis or allied then it hits other side. Cant see a way around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantona66 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Yes wlape3 is correct: ; #MAP_POSITION= Map positions that will be the source of strength loss for enemy units in range ; Format: x,y [min_range, max_range] [min_strength_loss, max_strength_loss] [alignment] [aligned_country_id] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantona66 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 So you can for axample add a line for each Axis country that should be affected, Germany, Italy, Romania, Hungary etc but not Finland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Nm now I see where cant beleive I missed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantona66 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 No problem, but you need to add all countries that could be Axis and should be affected.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts