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I'm curious about this line - the economy can't support... National economy?

Turkey is a good option in many ways, but but if I was UKR Gov I'd be very leery of its links and communications with Russia. Turkey has its own geopolitical priorities and maintaining comms and links with Russia is normal and sensible, but still, a little too close...

Drones coming out of drones https://www.defensenews.com/unmanned/2024/02/21/st-engineering-unveils-wheeled-ground-robot-equipped-with-aerial-drone/ Like I said before, I I'm waiting for this inevitable functionality in UKR sea drones...

And I believe I must eat my words - I felt L1s were not useful due to the 105mm gun and weak armor. I'm proven wrong.

PolGov has had enough of this Russian op.

"You **** the bed and now we all get to lie in it" is personal go-to.

Superb, and thank you! I love those kind of direct, informed technical battlefield reviews.

Well I already covered that with The Russian Way of War, no? ... It provides for not just the Army but all service branches, and the too. BSF hasn't exactly covered itself in glory. In Dog poop - yes, just like my son throwing a tantrum and rolling around on a hill with dog faeces everywhere (true story, literally yesterday. Fun times).

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/22/opinion/russia-ukraine-invasion-putin.html Finally NYt runs something counter to the current narrative.

Ahh but cluster**** is great because it encompasses both the end state situation (what a cluster****), the behaviour/decisions that led to it (it was a Cluster**** of an operation), and the primary person causing it (he was a complete cluster****). Cluster****ery is also a fun albeit lesser used version. There's also the nice addition that it's a variation on an original military word (cluster mine) so it's particularly appropriate to military situations and personnel. Finally, for me personally the word cluster is something I associate with chickens (clustering together) so another nice tie in with stupid, herding behavior that leaves everyone vulnerable to disaster.

Ahh Delboy. So damn funny. Still, I think Clusterf**k is the closest English version, to wit: Seems accurate.

DOLBOYEBIZM!

@Haiduk Amazing, love it. Today's "Word Of The Thread", and also good shorthand for The Russian Way of War. Cue everyone searching for the English equivalent while trying to stay inside the profanity lines...

7 is official.

Another one of these also...

RuAF taking chances, so more losses. Probably The shot down 34s are getting hit because they're doing their job (ground attack) rather than just tricksy UKR AD.

So just ball parking here... From Murz (RiH) - I believe 16k list attacking Avdiivka since Oct 23? Let's say from Feb 22 to Oct 23 another 5K lost, conservatively. From 2015-2022, say 1 K, conservatively. So at least over 20,000 men and 10 years to capture a ruined, operational Cul-de-sac of 60-70 sq.miles. Pretty ****ty RoI. And not even a breakthrough.

Nah, there's no pictures of naked children here so no Scott Ritter, thankfully. Anyway he probably has to go shout gibberish at some unlucky Chechens.

Sounds weirdly low.

Another one?

Estonia on guard.

Speaking of ze Germans: https://mil.in.ua/en/news/ukraine-is-exploring-the-possibility-of-localizing-panzerfaust-3/

In fairness...they're never meant to, no? I get the strong impression the pending F16 fleet is intended to push back the RuAF and hit operational level targets, not individual ATGM teams.