ok im done, you talk to me like im a 5 year old. it is not a misunderstanding of whats being represented. put your hand right in front of your face, hey look you cant see anything, put your hand further out, wow you can see more. that my simple explanation, i dont need to try to sound smart liek you are. you cant tell me you would be able to see the tank through that tree, even with binocs when it is that far away. the tank even looks like it could be bhind a hill, which is even more wierd. if it was a tree with no leaves then maybe, but its a full fledged tree, and there are more. how can you say that 10 trees dont block anymore LOS then 1 tree?