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so I am struggling to understand what the Wagner troops got out of this. The revolt was partly about MoD forcing PMCs to sign contracts and what they got out of the deal is contracts. So they risked everything to get what they already had? This stinks worse than the pot the kids smoke these days.

perhaps. Maybe even Prig was shocked at how weak Moscow turned out to be. it is as believable as anything else right now.

I can't see this thing being staged. Not when your army is facing a counter offensive and is already on the ropes.. but then this is Russia. I have to stop trying to make this rational.

Somebody should dub this.

Ukraine needs to make hay with this to drive the wedge deeper. Humiliate Putin. Contrast Zelensky staying versus Putin running. Start a whole bunch of memes Who is faster Putin or Zelensky? Putin, Zelensky doesn't run.

man I am out of reactions for today! This even beats the Dallas dream plot.

it is all still a big win for Ukraine. Russian forces are in disarray and the infighting is only going to get worse. I expect Putin is going to want another purge of anyone associated to Wagner. Morale for troops on the frontline has got to have gotten worse and once it is clear that even if Shoigu and Gerasimov aren't in charge, the RA still doesn't have a plan, what then? Also the fact that Wagner could move around pretty much at will has got to have Putin freaked, so what does he do now to try and secure his position? And what of the Wagner troops, really think this was the plan all along? What happens to them now?

Makes sense, Russian C&C has to be a mess right now and if true that VDV and other folks are pulling out, what is left in the way of a reserve?

I confess to appropriating it from my neighbor.

Putin: "I don't need ammo, I need a ride"

lol yeah but one can hope! in fake breaking news: President Xi has ordered Chinese forces to occupy Siberia to protect Chinese citizens and is calling for a referendum. Meanwhile Japanese forces have liberated the Kuriles.

Russia is on the verge of total disintegration, as local elites scramble for an escape (yahoo.com)

wouldn't this be a great time to drop the Kerch bridge... just sayin

he certainly has enough. I would think Rostov would have some decent air defenses. And it isn't like Ukraine has them to spare though one would hope the Russian army is too busy to continue it's air actions against Ukraine.

Whatever Prig says about not interfering with the war effort is BS, you can bet the MoD is busily stopping any war material going into Rostov to prevent Prig from possibly grabbing it. The supply situation just got a lot worse for the Russian troops in Ukraine.

wait a minute.... Really? The NATC? Pronounced NATCee....

what's that saying... The Chickens have come home to roost?

somebody shoulda told Putin that!

in Canada? There is a civil war in Canada? Holy crap, LOCK DOWN THE BORDER!!!

why? If he nuked Rostov, the Ukraine invasion definitely comes to a halt. it'll be a day or two before we know if Prig hasn't just signed his own death warrant or if the RA becomes unreliable. Either way, I don't see him leveling Rostov. If it does end up with an urban grind, then Putin has bigger problems.

no, give this a chance to play out and stick to the plan.

considering the state of the German army, this all might be better served by showing them loading all this hardware on a train bound for Ukraine.

sucks that I hate popcorn. Time to pull out some wine, cheese and a baguette. Gonna be a long night.

I think we all need to be a bit more patient. My expectation is the UA is still in the preparatory phase. Their goal right now seems to be to degrade Russian capabilities particularly arty before they push to get through the main defensive belts. Between hitting the arty units via CB, hitting the ammo dumps and the supply routes, the UA seems to be methodically preparing to crack the Russian lines while protecting their own units as much as possible.

very. lots of respect to this guy and a very clear balanced view