Timber

Good thing I only got the demo then, because it was a pretty important feature for me. Guess I'll pass until a new Combat Mission series with said info comes up then.

Was wondering why I can't find any armor penetration info in this game? Used to be able to see nice list in the old CM games. Did they remove it? If so, that's too bad

Hi guys, I am very excited to have learned about this new edition of the Combat Mission series, I was a great fan of Combat Mission 1, 2 & 3, so I was naturally very excited when I saw this one was about to launch. I have some questions however. One of the things I really loved about the other CM games was the angle of impact effect on armor penetration, and that the 30 deg penetration specs for each gun could be brought up by a simple click of button. Was a very nice addition, esp. for us history nuts, but also for newcomers as an education device. So anyway my question is this: Will CM:BN like the previous games feature the angle of impact system, with vehicle positioning and armor slope having an effect on penetration? And will players be able to see the stats of each gun as in previous titles? Cheers!

How is the game in terms of realistic armor penetration figures ? I'm asking as a screenshot shows the 75mm KwK40 L/48 only penetrating 48mm of armor at 2,000m. In reality it would pierce 64mm of 260 BHN armor angled at 30 degrees at that distance.. (According to Bird & Livingston) Haven't bought the game yet as I want to make sure it's as realistic as the Combat Mission series in this regard. Would be great with those excellent graphics and damage models

Hello Moon I was wondering do you have the penetration performance figures for the different guns in the game ? If so I'd really appreciate you posting them Many thanks in advance, Timber

Hmm.. in CMAK i destroyed 10 Shermans with one Tiger set at a fixed position ! I set the Tiger crew at "Crack", and the allied crew's were set to be a random selection. I did as in Discovery channel's program hide the Tiger behind some three's, guarding a particular spot. Soon the Tiger had massacre'd 7 of the Shermans without trouble !. The other Shermans were in the meantime trying to flank the Tiger, but only managed to fire two surprise AP rounds at it "And they both bounced off". So now the Tiger swings its whole chassis towards the flanking Shermans, so that it faces them head on. And then in one turn it took them out one by one. End result: One Tiger, Ten knocked out Shermans ! So I'd have to agree that it highly depends on the scenario !!. Regards.

The difference in penetration performance is there because, the M26 Pershing (45) used the newer T33 projectile, while the M36 Jackson (44) used either the old M77 or M82 projectile. What im wondering about is why the 9.0cm M3 gun has better penetration than the 7.5cm Kwk42. Because in U.S. firing-tests the kwk42 was found to have better penetration and ROF than the 9.0cm M3. Regards.

Thanks Kingfish !! Well now i see that they corrected alot of faults from CMBO to CMAK, such as the penetration figures for the Kwk42 and Kwk43/PAk43. Thanks alot Kingfish, i ow you one Regards.

Hehe.. Beer's on me Thanks for the pen data for the 9.0cm M3 guns. The 8.8cm Kwk43 is the gun on the Tiger Ausf.B (Tiger II) and also the Pak43 yes . The 7.5cm Kwk42 is the L/70 gun on the Panther. Thanks again m8. Looking forward to the other pen data, i really appriciate it !! All the best.

Thanks alot Kingfish !! Yes in CMAK im refering to the 9.0cm M2 AA gun. Btw the guns on the M36 and M26 are 9.0cm M3's. Btw if i could get the 60 degree pen for the 9.0cm guns then that'll be great. ! Now another question for you, what is the penetration for the 7.5cm Kwk42 and 8.8cm Kwk43 in CMBO ?. (this time at 0-30-60 degree) And again Thanks Kingfish, I really appriciate it ! (Im just very curius as i want to compare some of these penetrations with some others ) All the best.

If somebody could give me the penetration for the 90mm M3 gun at 30 degree's in CMBO, then that'll be great !. (Both APCBC, AP, and APCR will be apriciated) Im just curius as in CMAK it qoutes 87mm at 2000m at 30 degree angle. (I do not own CMBO) Any info wil be apriciated Regards.

Hmm.. Ok im abit confused now. So you guy's dont know if its ok to use it ?? I mean ive allready bought all the CM games available, but its so irretating to put the CD in the drive each and every time you want to play... But if its considderet illegal i certainly wont aquire the patch... Timber

Hello I just wanted to ask if its okay to use "No-CD patches" if you allready bought CMAK ???

Man im looking forward to results of that battle....

Well the CDV version i bought was a "best buy" package. And all the patches were allready there when i started the game, and there was no need for updating.