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    Attack by mechanized forces, part I (VERY long)

    in Combat Mission Archive #2 (2000)

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    Naaa

    The figures aren´t wrong. Think about PanzerLehr, 12.SS, 2. Panzerdivision or Wiking on the Eastfront (2! Pantherbattailions)

    Nominal strengh was 22 tanks per Pz IV Kompanie and 17 to 22 tanks per Pz V Kompanie.

    The fact that these Kompanies were severely battered on the march to Normandy (especially PanzerLehr) and entered service only piecemeal is another story. Again the figures are absolutely correct for 1944 tank battaillons. Look at the K.St.Ns and you will see. smile.gif

    Helge

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    The speed of Panther's Turrent Tranverse in CM

    in Combat Mission Archive #2 (2000)

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    Ahhh an interesting ON TOPIC Thread wink.gif

    Here´s some stuff concerning turret traverse:

    To quickly traverse onto a target, the Panther was outfitted with a hydraulic motor for the turret drive. In the AusfD, the hydraulic drive traversed the turret at a maximum rate of 360 degrees in 60 seconds independent of the engine speed.

    An improved hydraulic traverse was introduced with the Ausf.A in which the speed at which the turret was traversed under power was dependent on the engine speed. At the maximum allowable engine speed of 3000 rpm, the turret could be traversed at a maximum rate of 360 degrees in 15 seconds. After November 1943, with the HL 230 P30 governed at 2500 rpm, the turret traverse speed decreased to a maximum of 360 degrees in 18 seconds.

    The hydraulic traverse enabled coarse laying for the gunner to quickly acquire the selected target within the viewing field of the sight. Fine adjustment (laying the target onto the peak of the proper triangle in the sight reticle) was accomplished using the gunner's hand traverse and hand elevation wheels. If the power traverse failed the gunner could traverse the turret by hand. The gunner could be assisted by the loader using the auxiliary hand traverse.

    Helge

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    [This message has been edited by DesertFox (edited 02-10-2000).]

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    MG firing position

    in Combat Mission Archive #2 (2000)

    Posted

    Correct!

    If you fire a MG34/42 from the Tripod and want to use the optics [which is highly recommended for accuraccy up to 800-1000metres] you have no other chance. You have to kneel [most common method] or sit behind the tripod.

    Bipod is something completely different [to speak with Monty Pythons here ;)] but you don´t have the accuracy above 400metres.

    Helge

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    Tactics Primer

    in Combat Mission Archive #2 (2000)

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    What is my AfrikaCorps saying here? wink.gif

    Actually it was/is pretty common to put mortars on the edges of clearings or paths in woods, of course dug in.

    Reason was/is to have maximum protection against being spotted from the air.

    The reason to have good paths nearby is obvious I guess wink.gif

    Here´s some additional info some of you might find usefull:

    MORTAR RECONNAISSANCE AND POSITION SELECTION

    Reconnaissance for mortars determines its use for mission accomplishment. Although ground and air reconnaissance can be used, the section sergeant normally performs a map reconnaissance. A detailed ground reconnaissance is the preferred method of locating positions for the mortar section, but lack of time and mobility may not allow it. The mortar section sergeant accompanies the commander on the leader's reconnaissance.

    a. The general location of the mortar section is chosen by the company commander. He decides the location based on a careful consideration of the METT-T factors as well as:

    (1) The need to provide maximum coverage of the company's area. He considers both minimum and maximum ranges of each type round. Positioning the mortar section near the center of the rifle company sector or battle position normally provides the best target coverage and flexibility.

    (2) The need to place the mortars in defilade. This protects the mortar section from enemy direct and low-angle fires while still allowing it to support the company.

    (3) The need to provide some measure of security for the mortar section. The section should be positioned near or with other elements of the company. The commander can position the mortars near the company CP, near the rearmost rifle platoon, with the company trains, or with the reserve force, if there is one.

    (4) The need to provide for ease of ammunition resupply. The chosen position need not be directly on a route for resupply vehicles. However, if the position is near one, the resupply problem is eased if vehicles are used. Since the mortar ammunition is lightweight, resupply by a carrying party over short distances is possible.

    b. Once the company commander designates the general location of the mortar section, the section sergeant reconnoiters and determines the precise location for each squad.

    c. Once a section occupies a position and the mortars are laid, the section sergeant initializes the MBC or prepares an observed firing chart. Ready ammunition is unpacked, and communications are established. The mortars are left in temporary firing positions, and the emplacements are built to Stage I specifications. These positions are updated until they are at Stage III. Alternate and supplemental positions can be prepared or designated.

    d. Communication with the mortar section is the key to effective employment. The section uses the single man-packed radio to monitor the company command net. The radio can be placed on the frequency used by the platoon having priority of fire. It can be used to enter the FIST fire control net but does not operate routinely in that net. Wire is the primary means of communication during long halts or defensive operations. The company commander ensures that the wire is quickly laid to the mortar section and that all platoons pass calls for fire to the mortars. Voice is the most common means of controlling the fires during fire without an FDC. Initial commands to move or fire may be passed to the section over the company command net but not long fire missions.

    e. Advance party operations by the light mortar section are the exception rather than the rule. The size of the section and the simplicity of the weapon make a rapid and efficient emplacement possible without an advance party. When the section is expecting to move, mainly at night, and enough time exists to reconnoiter and prepare the new position, the section sergeant does so. A set of direction and baseplate stakes, marked for easy identification, can help the crew in emplacement. Chemical lights of different colors can be useful, depending on the tactical situation.

    That´s what FM 7-90 1992 has to say about it, and tactics haven´t changed much since WW2 concerning the emplacement of mortars.

    Helge

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    [This message has been edited by DesertFox (edited 02-07-2000).]

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    Hey!! Where's my favorite tank?

    in Combat Mission Archive #2 (2000)

    Posted

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>The attrition to the Kompanie would have been severe but can you imagine how much worse it would have been if the Soviets had had DPICM or even just ICM. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I don´t even want to think about it, Brrrrrrr...... wink.gif And after the Arty barrage all these nice Mi-24 searching for their prey.

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>The only question would have been could 105mm rounds penetrate T72 frontal armour reliably at long ranges (1 to 2 Km). I'm not so sure the 105s could do it...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    They could, but with the introduction of the "Dolly Parton" type uparmoured turetts on the T72M IIRC things changed. That, by the way, was AFAIK one of the reasons why the US Army wanted to have the german Leopard II 120mm Glattrohrkanone for their M1 wink.gif, besides other reasons of course.

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>I wonder what all the G2s thought when they saw T-64s arriving in Germany and T72s going into what they had for so long thought were 2nd line formations ? That must have caused a bit of a panic.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    If my memory doesn´t play tricks with me the soviet Westgruppe never had T-72. They directly switched from T-62 to T-64. The T-72s went to Poland, East-Germany and the Tschechoslovakei to replace their T-54/55, but I can be wrong here.

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Definitely the T72 although I'd probably curse it after driving it for its terrible ergonomics.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    And you can hide it behind a hedge wink.gif, this thing is so flat that I can stand inside the turett and am still looking out of the gunners hatch. [i´m 1.85metres]

    Imagine you have to search for the little turett of a T-XY which is in hull down position wink.gif

    Without thermal imaging you won´t have a chance.

    Helge

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    Hey!! Where's my favorite tank?

    in Combat Mission Archive #2 (2000)

    Posted

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Now it seems it was actually a cheapie export version and the true lineage went something like T54/55, T62, T64B (and I know we can disagree about exact designations just like the US military insisted on calling what we now call the T80 the T84 for the longest time ), T80, T9?

    The T72 seems to have been a cheapie export version (much like the US selling other countries M60 upgrades but keeping the M1 at home (although I wouldn't compare the T80 to an M1 )<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Fionn

    Indeed the T72 was the version with nearly all fancy stuff ripped off for export. You probably know that in the late 80s the "Soviet Westgruppe" which was intended to make the first assault alongside the Fulda Gap and the Line Magdeburg-Braunschweig-Hannover was equipped with the brandnew toys of soviet arsenals. They had the T-64B for good reason which was way superior to even the T72M, because of it´s fire control system gun stabilisation and rangefinding system.

    We calculated to be challenged with approx. one soviet Regiment per remnants of a LeoII Kp. which survives the innitial Arty barrage.

    I´m damn glad it never happened !

    Helge

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    Pz IIIF?

    in Combat Mission Archive #2 (2000)

    Posted

    Regarding this specific III F there isn´t much known.

    Regarding Pz III in Normandy in general has to be said that 116th Panzer Division had 6 Pz III, which where used in the Regimental Staff Co (3 Pz III) of Panzerregiment 16 and in the Staff of its II. Abteilung (3 PzIII). AFAIK these 6 were the only PzIIIs which saw service in Normandy (basing on Tom Jentz and some other sources)

    So whenever you meet more than 3 Pz III, there is a high likelyhood that it´s ahistorical biggrin.gif

    But these weren´t the only outdated german tanks in Normandy. E.g. Panzerregiment 22 (21. Panzerdivision) had some "ancient" Pz IV B and C, some captured Somuas and modified Hotchkiss and Lorraines and of course there was also the Panzerersatz und Ausbildungsabteilung 100 with its Hotchkiss, Somuas and Renaults and there was the Panzerabteilung 206 with captured french stuff.

    Helge

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    Pz IIIF?

    in Combat Mission Archive #2 (2000)

    Posted

    Basically the III F was almost indistiguishable from the III E.

    It´s production also began in 1939, the early vehicles mounted a 3,7cm gun and twin machine guns behind an internal mantlet. However, on this modell new ventilation ducts for the track brakes had been installed, and the covers for these were visible on the glacis plate.

    By now the wisdom of the original proposal to fit a 5cm main armament had become apparent, and later vehicles in the series were fitted with the L/42 5cm gun in conjunction with a single co-ax mg, the mounting being protected by an external mantlet. This gun was also fitted retrospectively to the Ausf.E.

    For the time frame of CM, this tank is absolutely outdated, however as it was in reality, in June 1944 some were in service with 116th Panzer Division in Normandy. One of them can be visited at the Patton Museum at Fort Knox.

    Helge

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    German terms

    in Combat Mission Archive #2 (2000)

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>"Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Nur gut, dass das kein Deutscher versteht. Der gute DUDEN würde sich im Grabe umdrehen wink.gif

    If these phrases could be understood by germans, the good old Mr. DUDEN would have to turn in his grave. biggrin.gif

    Helge

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    The Internet is Just a Big Pile Of Steamy Poo! Thursdays (sorta) Update on CMHQ

    in Combat Mission Archive #2 (2000)

    Posted

    Hahaha wink.gif

    Forget Simpson! His book is a piece of crap, full of historical faults and other major glitches. Reynolds is very close to reality, he is basing his description on the 1st SS PzCorps report that has been written to award Wittmann with Swords, but don´t forget that this report has been written with a clear intention in mind wink.gif

    In fact Wittmann only made one run along the N158 starting from hill 213 that morning, mopping up the british column alone (that was outside eastwards VB) he then entered the town from the east alone and was immobed by a 6pounder. He had to bail out and went 14km by feet to the Division HQ of PanzerLehr (how long do you think it takes to marsh 14km? 1 hour 2 hours ?)

    When he returned from the HQ he ordered Möbius Kp into action and they lost all of their precious Tigers that day because they where silly enough to drive into the town without any infantry backup.

    Go read Patrick Agte if you want to know what REALLY happened that day.

    BTW: At that time you are mentioning Wittmann doing his second run into the town, he actually gave an interview at the PanzerLehr HQ, after he ordered Möbius to take over, with a Kriegsberichterstatter, there are tapes and pictures of this interview wink.gif

    You might want to have a look at this page:

    http://www.leibstandarte.uni.cc/

    What they present is basing on Patrick Agte´s book

    Helge

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    What that's in the trees? A bird? A plane? A pillbox!!

    in Combat Mission Archive #2 (2000)

    Posted

    Ah Madmatt

    Then I have to blame you, you ..... wink.gif

    Seriously, I´m not blaming anybody here. You guys do a great job. Any intentions to do professional advertising as a profession ? wink.gif

    Your teasing skills seem to get better and better the longer we have to wait for the release wink.gif

    Helge

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    German release version?

    in Combat Mission Archive #2 (2000)

    Posted

    Hey Guys

    Calm down please. The fact of showing a Swastika or SS-Runes isn´t worth to get nasty.

    Since this game isn´t sold or supposed to be advertised in germany this discussion is pointless.

    Even if german gamers get a censored version and have to download some bitmaps it is their own decision and with doing so they are doing nothing illegal or are violating any laws.

    CM isn´t a game that reenacts ideologies for a good reason, please stop to drift into a political correctness discussion.

    Helge

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    Friday Night Update on CMHQ and I'm Not Wearing Any Pants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    in Combat Mission Archive #2 (2000)

    Posted

    I hope you don´t get a flu without your pants wink.gif

    Must I say more that I am absolutely delighted with the new terrain textures showing in your screenshots?

    Really great smile.gif

    Helge

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    Email: desertfox1891@hotmail.com

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    [This message has been edited by DesertFox (edited 01-07-2000).]

    [This message has been edited by DesertFox (edited 01-07-2000).]

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