Shaka of Carthage
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April 13, 1941 ... US 45%, Russia 60%
"No name" UK BBBG bombards Bergen, Norway.
UK strategic bomber continues the bombing of the port of Brest, Greater Germany. The port takes heavy damage. Luft I engages the British fighter escort but does no damage to the bombers.
Ruling councils have been established in Marseilles and Algiers to advise Italy on administering those areas until a provisional government and elections can take place. Last of the French ships have been scuttled in Mers El Kelir port in Algiers.
Vitturio Venetor BBBG and Fiume CABG engage in battle with another "no name" BBBG in the Gibralter port.
Italian sub packs, after being refitted with new submarines, resume the sinking of British merchantmen in the Med. Llyods of London doubles the insurance rates of ships traveling in the Med due to the losses.
Diplomatic relations have become very chilled between Germany and Spain. Spain isn't happy about the post-war disposition of former French assets. Especially displeased by the recent Italian "administration" of the former Vichy France. The Fuhrer became especially enraged when Franco mentioned that Germany couldn't stop the destruction in Brest. At that point, both leaders felt it was best to resume talks at a later date.
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Waiting on you to tell me what time you are available.
PS... standard game with "limits" (ie Air and Ground unit limits).
[ August 04, 2003, 05:48 PM: Message edited by: Shaka of Carthage ]
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I'm curious about Turkey. How did it get to be Allied? I'm assuming Axis attempted an invasion and it failed?
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March 16, 1941 ... US 41%, Russia 60%
Brest is attacked by a strategic bomber, two (2) fighter/bombers, three (3) CVBGs and bombarded by a BBBG. The port and the city suffer major damage.
Rogue elements of the Swedish Air Force attempt a interdiction strike against the bases of Luft I. Luft II was able to intercept them before they could do any damage. Last of the rogue elements has been rounded up and Sweden is finally peaceful.
XIX Panzers, XVI Panzers, 14th Army and the Italian IV Corps have been ordered into Marseille to restore order in this strike ridden city. The current government is to be arrested and a new provisional government will take its place. The French ships at port, where able to sneak away.
The Italian 10th Army and II Corps have been ordered to perform the same regime change in Algiers. The Italian Navy has scuttled the French ships in port, preventing thier escape.
Spain has protested the actions of Italy and Germany in Vichy France. The Fuhrer has responded that you are either with us or against us. Threats to the people and government of Germany will not be ignored.
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February 2, 1941 ... US 25%, Russia 57%
Certain rogue elements of the Swedish Army are being hunted down in Sweden.
Luft I and II conduct airstrikes on the UK BBBG bombarding Bergen, Norway.
Italian submarines continue to sink British merchantmen in the Med.
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December 8, 1940 ... US 21%, Russia 57%
Hungary has joined the Axis, following in the footsteps of its neighbor Romania. While the two nations are not friendly towards each other, they have put aside thier differences for the greater cause of the Third Riech.
British bombers, escorted by fighters, bomb Brest. Luft III and IV rise to meet them.
In order to counter British preparations to take away the neutrality of Sweden, the German Wehrmacht has taken over the defense of Sweden. To that end, the XII Corps (Ge), 10th Army (Ge) and 4th Army (Ge) have either landed on the coast on in Stockholm itself. Elements of Luft I and II will provide air cover.
Italian submarines continue to sink British merchantmen in the Med. Fiume CABG bombards Gibralter.
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November 10, 1940 ... US 7%, Russia 53%
New model fighter, the FW-190, has been introduced into the Luftflotte.
After intense negotiations, Romania has agreed to join the Axis.
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October 13, 1940 ... US 7%, Russia 53%
18th Army (Ge) supported by Luft III, attack the I Corps (Ca) holding Brest. Malta Air provides air support for the Canadians, but its not enough. Brest is overrun and occupied by VII Corps (Ge).
Vichy France and Italy have agreed to negotiate regarding the union strike. There are no reports of terrorist attacks in Sweden. The Fuhrer invites Spain to inspect Brest and verify the French resistance has ended there.
Italian submarines resume attacks on British Merchant ships in the Med.
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September 15, 1940 ... US 7%, Russia 53%
18th Army (Ge), supported by Luft IV and I, assault the I Corps (Ca) in Brest. Malta Air and Hermes CVBG respond with air support. I Corps (Ca) down to str 3, 18th Army str 6.
Naval battle in SE Gibralter is over. Vittorio Veneto BBBG sinks the crippled UK BBBG. U-007 submarine pack and Fiume CABG sink the weakened 2nd UK BBBG.
Vichy French Gendarmie and Italian CCNN clash with the striking unions and each other in Marsielle. The strategic importance of the port threatens to shut down the German economy in France.
A armored truck carrying payrolls for German soldiers in Norway, has been robbed and the three guards killed. The attackers were wearing civilian clothes and carrying Swedish made weapons. Swedish Border police even after being put on alert, where unable to stop the terrorist before they fled across the border into Sweden. The Swedish border police refused to let the German military cross the border in pursuit.
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I'm not sure about the shooting or hanging bit.
My understanding about the hanging, is that its supposed to snap your neck. But the rope needs to be tied a certain way or you end up with strangulation (which is what people usually think off... feet kicking, body twisting and turning).
A bullet to the head or even in front of a firing squad would appear to be quicker, but unless you hit the right spot, its the loss of blood that is killing you. But the bullet strike itself causes enough shock that you don't really feel much.
I wonder if the person being hanged, what they think about, in that moment between the floor beneath thier feet being removed and the snap at the end of the rope?
Then again, what about the thoughts of the person once they hear the shot, feel the bullet entering thier body/head?
What about the person who dies in thier sleep? Is there a brief moment that they wake up and realize they are dying?
I guess the best one would be the one thats unexpected.
How do you guys get on subjects like this? This isn't the first time we've done this.
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August 25, 1940 ... US 7%, Russia 53%
RAF Air strikes at VII Corps (Ge). Luft provide air cover. Luft I conducts a interdiction attack on the Malta Air Fleet bases. Excaliber CBG, based in the Liverpool port, comes to thier aid.
18th Army (Ge) with Aero I in support, attack the I Corp (Ca) in Brest. Eagle CBG intercepts. Canadians lose 2 str pts, Germans 1.
Luft II is then ordered to strike the Eagle CBG. On the trip home, the Malta Air Fleet, enraged by attacks on its home base, proceed to inflict horrible losses upon Luft II. There are even reports that pilots who ejected were shot down. Luft II has lost its ability to function.
With reconnaissance provided by Fiunite CABG, the Caio Duilio BBBG and Vittorio Veneto BBBG proceed to attack the UK BBBG that sunk Andrea Doria BBBG (even though the damage was done by another). All three suffer losses after fierce fighting. Of major concern is the other UK BBBG, sitting in the Gibralter port.
German intelligence has discovered the doctrine used by British carriers is named the TERIF doctrine (aka terrible if you screw up). The Fuhrer demands to know why OKL was not better prepared for this, especially in light of Guderians claim "to sweep the seas clear of British ships".
Negotitians with the Vichy French unions is deadlocked. A strike is imminent. Italy has threatend to use the CCNN (Blackshirts) to break the strike. In Sweden, the military refuse to investigate the bombing in Karlstad, saying it is a police matter. The police reply that it is a terrorist act, which is the jursidiction of the military, not a criminal act, which is the responsiblity of the police.
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August 11, 1940 ... US 7%, Russia 53%
Battle of Brest continues, with both British air, bombers and a CVBG striking at the I Field Luft Corps (Ge). Italian Aero I and German Luft I, II and IV provide air cover. German 18th Army and VII Corps, with Aero I providing close air support, finish off the French rebels.
Naval battle southeast of Gibralter between Vittorio Veneto BBBG and a unknown British BBBG. Italian submarines continue to harras the British merchant fleet while other assets of the Italian Navy bombard Malta.
A truck bomb destroyed a Swedish military hospital in Karlstad (just across the border with Norway). There were 150 people in the hospital (100 of them German soldiers who were patients, the rest staff). The hospital building collapsed due to the force of the explosion. Karlstad is a major military base for supporting operations in Norway. British saboteurs are suspected.
The short lived agreement between Vichy France and Italy has broken down. The two largest unions in Vichy France, representing the dock workers and the truck drivers, are holding last minute negotiations seeking to avert a threated strike. The Fuhrer could not be reached for comment.
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Hmmmm.... interesting.
What are the tech levels that you gave each nation?
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From what I remember, no, the computer AI doesn't cheat.
You should play with all the options on, except Disable Undo, Siberian War and Hex Grid. The politics should be random for them all.
These are the options almost all human vs human games are played with. This way, you don't have to unlearn any bad habits.
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July 28, 1940 ... US 7%, Russia 53%
UK bombers and fighter escorts strike at VII Corps (Ge) in France. Luft III intercepts the bombers and thier escorts. Intrepid and Excalibur CBGs then fly strikes against VII Corps themselves. Luft I provides air cover for VII Corps.
I Field Luft Corps strikes at the Free French 5th Army. Inflicts moderate losses (2 str) and receives none. Luft II strikes at Excalibur CBG, who receives support from Eagle CBG. Luft III losses are minor (1 str).
Italian Navy bombards Gibralter and Malta. Submarines continue to sink British merchants. I Aero (Italian Air), examines its training.
The Fuhrer has had to send representatives to settle the dispute between Vichy France and Italy. Spain meanwhile makes reference to the fact, that if the French campaign is over, why are Germans dying south of Brest?
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July 14, 1940... US 7%, Russia 53%
In reports that have been confirmed, a large number of French rebels have been sighted Southeast of Brest.
Bergen (Norway) welcomes with open hands II Corps (Ge).
Italian submarines sink British merchants in the Med.
The Fuhrer has announced that military units will be shipped home and stood down as part of the peace dividend from the glorius victory over France. Spains relationship with Germany continues to be best described as "cool". Vichy France and Italy have refused to come to terms over the taxation of oil being imported from Vichy Frances Middle East colony.
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Supply is one of the factors that determines what your units effectivness rating is. It helps you in combat and your supply level determines the amount of reinforcements.1. What does supply do? Does it just help you attack, or is it what determines how many reinforcements you can get?
No. Once they are gone, they are gone.2. Is there any way to build those pil-box things that France starts with, or once they are gone, they are gone>?
No difference. Manual implies it, but a blitz is nothing more than the ability to move before you attack. Almost all ground units can do that.3. In the manual, there is an attack called blitz. Aside from moving before you attack, is there any differnce between blitz, regular attack?As Hueristic mentioned, read the manual. Its an easy read. Don't forget that there is a newbie sticky topic as well. Read it. There is some good information in there as well. There is also a Strategy Guide, which I believe the newbie sticky points to. Its worth the time as well.
PS... You need a PDF reader, which you can get free from Adobe. Just do a search, you'll find it.
[ August 03, 2003, 12:40 AM: Message edited by: Shaka of Carthage ]
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Axis Comments
With the fall of France, what I consider the first phase of the campaign is over. Since Oak did it earlier, I'll comment on why I did what I did.
There are many different openings, so this is just an explanation of the one I used, so you understand the reasoning. Obviously, this is from the Axis side.
Poland is worth 10 MPPs. So is Denmark. Both give you plunder. Low Countries are worth 24. Poland if not taken by the fourth (4) turn, will cause the Russian readiness to increase.
France can perform the Dutch Gambit on turn two (2). Loss of the plunder is bad enough, but the gain of a good defensive line is a killer. The only salvation is that the French have no HQ. Allies can also use a Corps (or Army) in the Maginot line to capture Munich (you need to lay a bridge over the river
).So I strip units from the East so I can take the Low Countries on turn 2. The Axis have to be aggressive with France, cause time works against you and for France.
Normally, that leaves me with enough to take Poland by turn three (3) or turn four (4). About 50/50 either turn.
This time, I decided to get "creative" and attempt to take Denmark as well, using that Prussian Corps and some air.
With Oak reinforcing Poland and an additional air and Corps being pulled away from Poland, it seems I went too far, pushing the schedule back one or two turns (Poland falling turn four or five). I also made some mistakes leaving me without some units when I needed them. (Those mistakes where... when the one str Polish Army was on the coastline, I should have used a naval unit to try and eliminate it. If I had of, then I wouldn't have pulled another unit back to go after it. I also should have ignored the "taunt" about it going to Berlin, since I don't think it had enough AP's to get over the river). I had some low random factors as well, leaving units alive that should have been killed. What was even worse, was that the constant reinforcement of the Polish units, meant I couldn't take away any of them for the West. So while I made some nice advances in the West, I was constantly outnumbered, which does catch up with you.
Then I made a major FUBAR and forget to guard Cologne. I lost it the next turn and never got it back.
In my mind, invading Ireland early is a mistake for the Allies. It lets me know exactly where the Carriers are. Thats what my subs were trying to do. I put one as far north as possible, to pull naval units away from the carriers. The second sub was close to Ireland, for a kamikaze attack against a carrier. The first sub held out so well, that Oak had to send units from east of Ireland after my first sub. They found the second sub that was hiding. Such is fate.
Notice one thing though about the Polish "mistake". It cost me 8% points in readiness. You have to judge for yourselfs if thats worth it.
Now to France. In a "no-limit" game, the faster it falls the better. All about MPPs. In a "limit" game, its a little bit different. I prefer to use France as a training ground for the German Army. Experienced units are worth alot more than the MPPs you pay for them. There is no worse feeling than to have a German 6str Army get attacked by four (4) Russian Corps and take no damage, while each Russian Corps loses between 2 to 6 str points. I'm trying to arrange that feeling for Oak right now.
On to the next phase, aka Axis "Happy Times". This is when the Axis run around collecting neutrals and conquests, while the Allies try to bleed the Axis any way they can.
But now the Axis have a problem. The more territory, the more you have to garrison. Especially in the Med, since the Italians only have eight (8) units and those darned Yugo Partisans really cause problems now.
[ August 02, 2003, 07:55 PM: Message edited by: Shaka of Carthage ]
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June 30, 1940 ... US 7%, Russia 53%
Dublin Corps finally falls under a massive assault by Sea, Air and Ground forces. We salute the heros who died fighting the oppressors. All Irish of the world are welcome to come to Germany to continue the struggle against British oppression.
Under the direction of the OKM, Operation Weserubung, a swift coup de main, has seized control of Norway. Army Group XXI, consisting of 10th Army, 4th Army and II Corp, supported by Luft IV and Luft II, conducted a lighting strike against Oslo, seizing control of the government within a matter of days. While the 4th Army performed brillantly (causing 5str damage), 10th Army and II Corp struggled during the amphib unloading, suffering slight losses while assaulting the beach and port.
XXI Corps (Fr), even though heavily assaulted by the German XXVI Corps, VI Corps and XIX Panzers, still repulsed the assault (down to str 1). In recognition of the bravery, the Fuhrer has ordered the surrender to be accepted. Members of the XXI Corps (Fr) have been offered positions in the Waffen SS, instead of POW status.
Army Group West has destroyed all remaining French units that resisted in the PTO. Under heavy security, the Fuhrer entered Paris along with the victorius soldiers of AG West.
Italian submarines sink British merchants in the Med.
While celebrating the victory over France, the dominant military power prior to hostilities, Italy has expressed its displeasure over the terms of peace given to the French. It seems that the new Vichy French government will retain Algiers and Syria, as well as Marsielle. Other than Syria, these are the same areas that the Italians conquered during the brief campaign. Mussolini is not happy.
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JerseyJohn makes an excellent point. One of the reasons I never released my scenario, was that I was never able to achieve the results I wanted on the Eastern Front.
As JerseyJohn points out, the Russians get no break from the German attacks. I have not been able to find a way to effectively reflect the Russian ability to bleed the experienced German manpower.
As pointed out also, the amphib thing is a killer. Especially in North Africa, where the Allies could leapfrog each turn of retreat by the Axis. Not to mention the classic Italian "E-Day" assault by three or more units on Egypt. Those things just couldn't happen.
I've tried to keep a list of what changes I feel are necessary to give a more historical result. Here is the link.
This is off topic, but the one other thing I wanted to do, was to expand the economic unit beyond the single MPP. In other words, I wanted the effects of oil, since it was a critical economic issue in WWII. I wrote a system up on that as well. If you're interested, you can find the link in the newbie sticky thread.
And don't get us started on expanding the Atlantic!
[ August 02, 2003, 01:09 PM: Message edited by: Shaka of Carthage ]
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June 16, 1940 ... US 1%, Russia 49%
OKH has lost contact with XI Corps (Ge).
Dublin Corps survives strikes by two (2) CVBG, one (1) BBBG, two (2) Air and one (1) Strategic Bomber. XXX Corps (UK) in Ireland is conserving its manpower for the expected occupation.
Limited attacks by French in PTO. Italians break southern defenses, AG West reduces French to Army (str1) in Paris and Corp (str9) SW of Paris.
XXI Corps (Fr) in Cologne survives the German attacks at str3.
Italian submarines sink British merchants in the Med.
The Fuhrer is taking a train to Paris in anticipation of its surrender. During the trip, he examines Intelligence reports that show the British have increased thier Naval Battle Groups by a BB. Three (3) CVBGs have been indentified off of France and Ireland, with different names then pre-war. Must be some sort of disinformation campaign, as the UK could not have built a BB and a CV. At least two (2) French units are in Britain. There is also one (1) Canadian Army unaccounted for. Possiblity of two (2) more British units in the UK. And the French fleet has either been scuttled or has fled to Asia. Hence, UK could have five (5) ground units in Great Britain. Time to send a message to the British.
British Empire, are you willing to cease hostilities against the Third Reich and enter into peaceful negotiations regarding the New World Order?
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May 26, 1940 ... US 1%, Russia 49%
XI Corps (Ge) is ambushed outside of Brest by I Corps (CW). The Canadians inflicted heavy losses on XI Corps, OKH fears it is lost.
AG West shatters another French Corp while reducing the Paris defenders.
IV Corps (Itl) captures Algiers.
Fighting still continues around Cologne, with the French and Germans both bringing in fresh reinforcements.
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April 28, 1940 ... US 1%, Russia 49%
XXX Corps (UK) attacks Dublin, but was easily repulsed. UK str 5 now.
VII Corps (Ge) takes Bordeaux. 1st Army (Itl) attacks French Corp south of Paris. AG West, after receiving reinforcments, continues offensive in PTO.
XXI Corps (Fr) attacks 3rd Army (Ge) north of Cologne. French suffer moderate losses (2str), Germans none. XIX Panzers, VI Corps and XXVI Corps counter attack XXI Corps (Fr), which is now at str 2.
It what may prove a controversial move, OKL orders Luft II to strike at the Malta Air unit. RAF intercepts, Luft II suffers heavy losses (5 str pts). Luft III fly unopppossed against Malta Air, but BDA (bomb damage assessment) shows Malta is still a functioning unit.
Italian submarines strike British merchants in the Med.
The Fuhrer continues his tongue lashing of the OKH. He wants a "transformation" and "thinking outside the box". OKH responds that it was given a sixty-eight (68) division job, but only fifty-two (52) divisions to work with.
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Geographic and Military Flaws in SC
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Unless I am mistaken, the other games that have the carriers and the naval air seperate are operational level. There are no strategic games that seperate them.
If you go with the theory that the Air unit has around 1,000 aircraft it causes problems with a seperate naval air unit. I know the super carriers that the US built had 80 or so aircraft on them. The more conventional carriers, which I believe are what the ones' we have represent, have around 50 or so aircraft per carrier. That would be about 20 carriers in a CV unit. Don't think so. I think its more like two (2).
So if I have 100 aircraft per carrier unit, there is something of a disparity. Even if the sortie rate of the carriers were five (5) times more effective than land based aircraft (which it isn't), that still makes the carrier aircraft 50% as effective.
I don't see how any numbers that small should be represented by a seperate unit.