Dead Horse

You asked for clarification and then fled... To answer the question, and provide you clarification, I am suggesting that the use of "authentic colloquialism" is often employed by Walts and is often effective. This entire thread is about wanna be who used effective language with one or two errors (see the very first post). Most combat veterans I know - especially ones who have taken lives - generally don't trumpet their own achievements. Not in person. I suppose the Internet could make some a little more brazen, but those that have walked the walk generally don't have to prove anything to anyone. So yeah, the use of language seems a little "too pat", but I may be overly sensitive since that was what started this thread to begin with. I may be unconstructive in these criticisms, but I detest poseurs, and detest even more discussing the taking of human life like it was a video game. A professional interest in the use of weapons and their effects is one thing; bragging about killing ragheads in order to built up "cred" where none is really needed is another. Anyway, I didn't think twice about my comments here as the original topic has exhausted itself and has split off into a dozen other little conversations - which should probably be started in seperate threads anyway given the magic number 200 has been reached.

I'll inject some disrespect then. In forums frequented largely by actual serving military members, the term 'Walt' has come into play. Generally they look like the gentleman in the foreground: Walt is short for "Walter Mitty", but he also answers to 'wannabe'. You can find him on Airsoft bulletin boards, or message boards like this: Link Pretending to be something he's not. You can generally tell he's not really a serving soldier by his use of all the correct slang, with just a titch too much "gung ho" thrown in for verisimilitude. I don't have a hard time believing someone could blow off another human being's arm with a .50 and then go on the internet and laugh about it, but such a thing would have to be pretty rare indeed. If Cipher is the real deal, well, my apologies, but you don't need to go on as if you're John Wayne. Certainly we don't need the offensive racial epithets here. It's mostly a civilian crowd. The real combat veterans that have posted here in the past - Forever Babra, Desdichado, Nidan1 - have been pretty reserved about their experiences which is what one expects of a combat veteran. That's something most Walts don't get. Again, apologies to Cipher if he is the real deal, but of course all we have to judge anyone on here is what they say and how they say it. Knowing all the right slang doesn't prove anything one way or the other. Rant off.

The game isn't even out yet. I think you mean to say "let the rest of us get on with our wild speculation about game features, whining about the subject matter, and boasting about our own military service." Isn't that what the Peng Thread is for, in any event? Only with a twist; they speculate about each other's genitalia, whine about the Outerboarders, and boast about their literary skillz (w00t!)...or maybe that was speculate about each other's literary skillz, whine about their genitalia, and boast ...no wait, that's not quite right either....

Might be funny if it was in German or somefink.

Maybe follow the best advice here and just STFU until they have something to tell you and stop making moronic demands. If this game is really that important to you maybe you need to step away from the keyboard before its too late...

This seems like confusion on your part; neckalcing was done in theatre, but not by the CAR. The Canadian atrocities revolved around two deaths, one as a result of a night-long beating and torture session. The CAR had orders to shoot "between the skirt and the flip-flops" but widespread torture of prisoners was not commonplace. The Somalia Inquiry documents are widely available on the internet.

Why not wait until you see the game and then maybe your mind won't have to boggle so much? Just a suggestion. The devs already stated they aren't sure exactly how this will all work themselves either. Why not let them sort it out and just wait and see what happens? Your sigline says "Be constructive" but I don't see any of that in your post.

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The Canadian experience. "PPCLI" is "Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry", one of three full-time infantry regiments in the CF. For what it is worth, I see no use in giving different physical capabilities to female soldiers, but would like to see them included in CM:SF. Lest anyone think them unequal to the task, this was posted at a Canadian Forces website: Nicely sums up the utter crap being posted about lesser physical requirements and all that other nonsense. Those Patricia's were in the air and on the ground because they did the same job as the men. If it is the same in the US, there is no point in not including them in the game, as Mike Emrys as pointed out. [ November 04, 2005, 10:14 AM: Message edited by: Dead Horse ]

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