dog6880

ok granted but in an operation. say you need to take the victory location in 15 mins. now on the 16th turn you dont have the hill. new objective is to withdraw all your troops as fast as possible. asuming this is an operation this can be a new mission but you cant replace troops or you can to a min. say there is still figthing going on. then those troops in contact will remain in contact and continue to fight. new objective is for the winner of the last battle who took the hill to hnt down the loser. the loser needs to regroup for another attempt at something different. My problem is why must tehre always be a time limit?

Ok are all the mods good? sho8ld i just download everyone i find? should i pick and choose? will it ruin the original game or will it make it better? i can pretty much do anything on my machine so should i just get everyone i find nand have fun or does it mater what ones i use? who do i trust?

ok i see the needs for time limits but i still see the needs for no limit or at least what was a great idea: an unknown limit. it just stinks when troops in the same building just stop the fight. i want to see who wins and i want to either retreat my own troops or hunt the opponent till the last man. sure the victory locations are needed and if it is just bout taking the hill and it is not an operation i guess it is fine to end a game wiht a time limit. but if the possiblillity of having to face those troops in the next battle is there then one should be allowed to fight it out. one can always surrender. and if it is the lone sniper in the woods and you know it then the winner should surrender and say "i know i won and i wont ever be playing you ever again good bye" PS anyone want ot play a newbie?

great replies thank you. but especially in operations where your troops carry over i find time limits anoying. i was playing the whittman operation and i had thatinfantry platoon in teh town. i left them there and they got surrounded by tanks. after the first battle they appeard out of hte town and in the woods. at least deem them captured. i understand the lone sharpshoot problem but i mean proximity. i hat to see closecombat ending due to timelimit. i want ot wipe out that platoon so they dont carry over into the next map to hassel me.in close combat(the game not the situation) the battle wouldnt end if troops were too cloe together. i think LOS and proximity should apply. if you can see them and they can see you and some one is shooting at a target the battle should go on. [This message has been edited by dog6880 (edited 12-31-2000).]

Ok why must there be a time limit. i was playing a twenty turn limit game and i had an american and german tank dualing it out in a town at about 100m. then i had a german platon and british platoon in close combat in the middle of the woods. and i won a senario because i ran a platoon across an open feild during my last minuet to grab a vitory location... so what happens both comanders are like. o look its tea time lets all pull back and stop shooting. i personaly want every last nazi dead before i finish, and what if i want ot fight to the last man, and lose. i was once surrounded in a small town and had four german tanks pounding my men wiht their infantry moving in. but NO! time rean out so we al went home. i hope if i ever see combat their is a time limit.

jumbo i agree i get lots of nasty replys from lots of nasty people. i dont know what you are saying because i am new to this game but any imbalance in any game is unfair and ruins the game, and should be fixed. Thats why no one wants to play a senario where we invade gold or sword beaches, or one where the germans smash the polish or french. what would the point be? so if there is an unbalance it needs to be fixed. if people grumble and the game desiners dont do it because of that then everythign the company has said about quality war games witht a twist of reality is bust. cant have quality games that are unequal.

i sort of make one out whos veiw is covered by smoke form another burning tank. sio add one more to my count. lol i kept trying to click it thinking it would work.

dont forget "get up and wave that white flag private!!!!"

um now i count 22 i take that one

21 but what are the other two billows of smoke? german guns? if shermans 23

good news for me... I GOT MY GAME!!!! so i dont know maybe it si becaus ei live in NYC i dont know but the guy who wrote me was wrong. i got it the day after i recieved the email. maybe i was out of their system becaus emy game shipped by the time he looked. good luck to all those waiting.

ok makes sence i get it. so it was sort of like in the saving private ryan scene with the americanplane comes and blows a way that german tank? ok thank you i'll read the game book on that part and check ou tthe movie thanks guys

but who caled it in? just targets of oportunity for the piolet? what was he an impartial combatant? so i take it airsupport can just wander into a mission with out anyone asking for it?

OK i just got the game and i decided to play the missions before the operations and i decided to do it by completing the shortest ones first and moving up. In Grosshau Ridge an aircraft comes and drops two bombs on german troops and then straffs the american troops. what is this???i played it for both sides and it happend the same way. It first levels the germans whoever may be running to the ridge and then straffs the german tank and the american troops. Just a confused piolet?

ok to clarify the first one... well my attacking men hear a sound contact that is really a pillbox "Pill box?" when i click the national marker. and with the FO i must admit that it is quite possible that i just lost track of an FO but on tow occations i think they took initiative that wasted my men.

1)How do my units get a sound contact on a concrete pill box at 600 meters? 2) when i tell a tank to hide does it try to find something big to get behind like a house? 3) my 105mm FO's take it upon themselves to call in arty on the enemy as i have infantry assaulting the line. now this happens in real life sure, but after a point i just want my arty guys to lay low but they keep showing bad judgement. i dont want to search for all my FO's and make sure they are just sitting still. i ensuered i canceled all arty missions prior but two turns later rounds came in AFTER i took the town

this was what i got in the email: We have a substantial backlog of orders to process (we took a few day off last week) and at present your order is not in the system yet. So odds are, you probably won't get it before New Years. Even if this wasn't a holiday, an order placed on the 25th probably would take about a week to arrive (factoring in the time to process the order and ship it out), with now with the normal holiday rush, its just going to be worse. Sorry, but I don't want you to get your hopes all up. I would say that assuming your order ships out in the next 48hrs (and their are no problems with the payment method) you should get it sometime mid to late next week. I am uncertain if the USPS is taking Monday off as a holiday or not though. Matt *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* Battlefront.com, Inc. Home of Superior War and Strategy Games www.battlefront.com

1)How do my units get a sound contact on a concrete pill box at 600 meters? 2) when i tell a tank to hide does it try to find something big to get behind like a house? 3) my 105mm FO's take it upon themselves to call in arty on the enemy as i have infantry assaulting the line. now this happens in real life sure, but after a point i just want my arty guys to lay low but they keep showing bad judgement. i dont want to search for all my FO's and make sure they are just sitting still. i ensuered i canceled all arty missions prior but two turns later rounds came in AFTER i took the town

Well i ordered my game and i was hoping to get it before the new years. I was told in responce to an email i sent the following: ============================================= We have a substantial backlog of orders to process (we took a few day off last week) and at present your order is not in the system yet. So odds are, you probably won't get it before New Years. Even if this wasn't a holiday, an order placed on the 25th probably would take about a week to arrive (factoring in the time to process the order and ship it out), with now with the normal holiday rush, its just going to be worse. Sorry, but I don't want you to get your hopes all up. I would say that assuming your order ships out in the next 48hrs (and their are no problems with the payment method) you should get it sometime mid to late next week. I am uncertain if the USPS is taking Monday off as a holiday or not though. Matt *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* Battlefront.com, Inc. Home of Superior War and Strategy Games www.battlefront.com ============================================= time to find better things to do with my time till then. o well.

ok this is beating a dead horse but what about concealment? Not cover. my MG can shoot down trees and through light buildings and through bushes. anyone in the army knows what MILES is. its like lazer tag its how we train. lazer adapters on the weapons and halos on the helmet and vests that both have lazer recievers. you get hit you get this loud buzzing noise. The training problem in real life is soldiers seek cover behind bushes and thin walls say "haha!! cant kill me." give me a live belt and i will. lazers can't pass smoke either sort of like in this game. its a great game and i love it but i could be better. i trust the game developers to fix what they can seems the same in the game

play the demo man it rules. i am waiting for my order to come i am gonna break down. i played it for 3 hours andthen ordered it.

ok now i will break down and cry. can i just pick it up?

sorry for using defect i guess limitation was the right word. but really machine guns need more attention. i am an M60 gunner, it is the bread and butter of an infantry platoon, it accounts for something like 60-70% of all enemy casualties inflicted by a platoon. grazing fire and anything form the barrel to the target gets hit. (i dont know does that work in the game?) can the enemy cross my MG's stream of lead? or at night we have a FPL (final protective line) it is about 3 feet in front of your lines position. picture a triangle with a MG at each angle. each gun can traverse to the far right and fire a stream in front of the whole line. you pass or cross that stream you die. i hear it works. tell you after i see combat.... can any of this be done wiht the games MG's?

o i see sorry bout the answer i didnt know we were talking about the thinking phase...... sorry only a board newbei waiting for the mail man

o i did. i just cant wait. what 5-7 days? its been 3! i should have driven to their ware house.