Combatboy

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TeAcH: For what's its worth Jeff, I agree with you. I just wanted to publicly display my support for your efforts in this discussion. I think the whole flaming war started when Slap subtly accused some of us who were for the optics advantage as being part of some secret nazi lovers party then saying that we were anti-science lovers. BTS even made a comment to that end that there are those that are devote freaks of German ww2 military might. An "optics supporter" could easily infer that they were being painted with that brush. Then when the warmth got returned to Slap, he posted fifty times a minute and pointed the finger at everyone else, namely Jeff. Sad. Slap, you were even being snide in your response to my post back on page 7 or so (about the search warrant issue). Funny thing is, and I wont go into it, but there you were trying to use a police related, search warrant example like you knew what you are talking about. It was innacurate at best. Overly presumptious of you, wasn't that? But that appears to be right up your alley. I would not even begin to tell you about, or make examples out of, your field of expertise, because I have not studied it nor have I practiced it for any length of time. If I had a nickle for every person I met who thought they were smart because a certificate on their "I love me wall" says so, well..you know the rest. I realize my post is off topic, but I really found it disturbing that Slap (you) would make subtle snide remarks towards others (Jeff) and their arguments, then cry fowl when they respond in kind. Unfair. I agree with the poster who said this forum would have gone a lot smoother had slap been missing from it. So now what? Slap quotes my whole post and disects it piece by piece? Who cares. Good going Jeff. [This message has been edited by TeAcH (edited 10-06-2000).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> This post is GREAT!!! I mean really great. Really. For a second I read it and took it seriously, so I went back and read the posts about detectives, then I read this one again, and then I got it totally! Cause at first I said, this guy is a cop? He must be that funny little guy who gives parking tickets out at school who gives you a ticket even if you have your sticker. Then it struck me, he can't be crazy too, or else how do they give the guy a gun? Now, not that I have figured out what he was trying to say mind you, but I think you all are reading it wrong, or else he posted to some other thread by accident. Thanks for listening! Tom

I want a King Tiger in the game... OH it already is, I guess I am happy!!!!

You know, lawyers hear excuses all the time. The most common is, "honest, I have only had two drinks!" Many people though do not know lawyers most common excuse. "Honest, I was just trying to help that sheep into my BMW."

I LOVE A CIRCUS!!!!!!! You all don't understand Jeff. You think he is crazy -- but he aint. I have a theory -- he is screwing with all of your heads. I mean really -- he jumps in and acts all foaming at the mouth and all the crazies line up with him, then he discredits the whole optics thing in one blow! He is actually on BTS's side! I think everyone could take a cue from John. Since he and Slappy got slapped down, he has been handing out the information and a real posters. I think John deserves a lot of credit here.

Been reading reading reading, and I have to say this one is silly too. Slaphappy, you take the cake on this one. Telling some guy who is melting down into his own personal little padded cell to grow up will solve nothing except make him flame twice as hard. But I did like the one about breaking the pills in half . I think it is best if everyone acted nice to each other, then just let the flamers flame out on nothing. Ignore em and they will calm down, and maybe come back in! Be joyful, do good work, and kill lots of enemy tanks Tom

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PzKpfw 1: Thats fine CB, I'm glad in your opinion its been resolved etc. Now what does that have to do with you singleing me out? what do you care what I post? am I being stalked now?. And where have I ever stated that I wanted everyone on my side? have you even read anything I posted in the lacking punch thread? I take from the above you never have. If you believe it is so easily settled then ask yourself why the thread hasn't been locked to date. I posted data from the source CM used to get its 30^ data, it conflicts with what CM uses now & you think that this has no relevance to the discussion nor should i have posted it. Thats an interesting perspective, as it refelcts a closed mind, oh, I forgot you already said you feel the issue has been resolved, silly me. Now the alternative is we cut the discussion board out of the KwK.43 discussion completely and continue it directly E-mail with BTS, through perhaphs Fionn, which would appear to be what some ppl want here anyway. Oh, and a lil note don't bother singling me out in your post's etc, or since we both live in Florida you could stop by and better explain your position to me, in person between classes, or I could visit you at the SPJC campus its not far from me I was their last weekend, & I think I know the place you refered to with your grandfather & benches to as theirs a bookstore near their I frequent. Regards, John Waters <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Dude! The moment you start threatening people's grandfathers is when you are definately going overboard. You are saying here if I mention you in a post anymore you will come after me. As I explained to Phil that is not much of a problem, but you may want to stop and think before you threaten. I could be like 7 feet tall (I am not) and my Grand could be the meanest 70 year old geezer on the block. So, no threats of violence huh? Words only is cool by me.

I like it, the intellectual Cesspool. I dubb the King Tiger thread the place were people can ask each other questions about their heritage without getting flamed down. I for one will answer anyone about living in the United States if they will answer questions about living in there own countries. Like: What is the drinking age in Australia and Germany? Just wondering really, not that I will ever get to another country, travel is to hard so I pretty much stay around here. As for PzKpfw 1 going after Grand or me, he will have to roust an awful lot of geezers to find Grandpa, there are like 30 of them who sit on those benches every day. Likely he would try and Grand would find a new and creative use for his cane . As for me, he can come to SPJC, but although I am easy to spot in the crowd, I wont tell him WHY I am easy to spot in the crowd, so he has to go after a lot of students to find little old me. I am pretty safe I think even if he lives next door. Unless he is some sort of sniper or something, or a private investigator. Maybe I will start wearing a false beard or a mustache. You see, the beauty of the internet is he can't find me and we probably live right next door to each other or something. Unless I tell him my address, I am pretty safe. He does not even know which campus of SPJC I go to. Maybe I am at Seminole, maybe St. Pete, maybe Clearwater, who knows! That is a lot of students to roust -- my bet is he isn't even the stalker type anyway, so be happy!!! I am safe from the terrors of the 88L71 hit squad, and Grandpa is a mean SOB so as the aussies say, no worries. Of course, if he does take me down... AVENGE ME!!!! Tom

Oh yeah, I am almost done reading the book on science my professor gave me, and it looks like Vanir, Slapdragon, and BTS were right about it. Your one set of data, no matter how many people repeat it, would only be what you needed to explore the subject further, and you would need controlled test data of a better quality to actually build a bigger case. Don't freak at me, it is what "Vhost: How Science is Done" says. I have ordered a better book, but I am not sure I will read it. King Tigers ROCK!!!

Very cool, a discussion group were someone gets banned if they disagree with you! I want one myself, it would be cool! You guys are funny as heck. People wrote like 5000 words explaining to you why the problem is not a problem and you two like read none of them. I was rooting for you to start, then they convinced me. I am just a dumb kid, but they said your data was problematic for a bunch of reasons, and people keep reposting those reasons, and then you just put the old record back on and requote the same data. If it had not already been done twice before I would go and cut and paste it back together again for you. But them you would just post the results of that one test again and say, when will it be resolved? BTW- What College did you go to? I am at SPJC and am looking for a good college other than stupid old USF.

Very cool, let me figure out how to do it and you are on!!! My SPJC account is on a mainframe so I use Hotmail, I just have to read the book on it

Thanks DanielH!

I know everyone is all uptight about this, but perhaps it is something that cannot be solved. Maybe if everyone just dropped this one issue and talked to each other about their lives and their families and the idiots I have to eat lunch with and cool stuff like that/ Now, I know I am just a dumb kid. But it seems like this one issue is kind of silly. The 88 shoots through two shermans laid end to end far as I can see, and I can win a lot of games just by parking my King Tiger (which ROCKS!) on top of a hill and blasting the US as they rumble down the road. Nothing they got can touch me except this one Brit tank that wasted me last game I played, except I get bogged down sometimes. So there are two groups to this argument: The prove it group, and the Why should we when we are right group. Never are they coming together, and all their discussions are like yelling at a stone wall, no one listens to the saner heads, who eventually leave, and someone gets freaked and starts a flame war, then 6 flames later says, "This is the final note on the matter" like saying that ends the argument. So, if we all just agreed that the 88 rocks well enough and left it alone, we could get back to some real discussions. EXCEPT: Please don't close down the King Tiger thread cause I am learning a lot in it. Thanks for listening! Tom

Seemed resolved to me: not enough evidence and what evidence everyone has is full of problems. I think you mean by resolved is everyone needs to come to your way of thinking. DUDE! I want the 88 to be the baddest gun in the world to, cause I love King Tigers, but I figure if you can't sell the chicken at the market you might as well keep it home and let it lay some eggs. What I mean is you had a chance to do the science thing, and you said you were to practical for science, so who is going to listen to you anymore? Other than me that is, since I think the King Tiger rocks! Anyway, you should just contact people on the side who agree with you and work on your argument more before you run it back out. Peace guy! Be happy! Fall break is almost here. Tom

It stands for BIG TANK... oh, that is BT.

I think the bilding explosions are cool, so why mess with them?

Hey all -- one more thing. I just noticed that the Waters guy is trying to get someone to talk to him on a different thread, the "Long 88mm" thread, but no one is answering him even though he keeps posting to it. Wouldn't it be nice for someone just to go over and agree with him? It is kind of sad, like someone standing at the corner of a party and no one is talking to him. danielh has posted some neat stuff, can someone just rewrite it a little bit so it agrees with him and post it? I think it would be the nice thing to do for the guy.

I don't know if our library has them, its pretty bad, but Norb speaks German so I assume he can read it.

By the way, how do you post things on this forum? I see people put picture up, but I don't know how they do it.

Norbert never wrote anything that I know of, he was just being an a--hole in the cafeteria. (If I can get him to write something I will have it scanned and post it), A lot of people heard him though. His father is a US citizen now, can you charge him in the United States? I do not know his address but it will be in the SPJC phone list. So, if I am in the cafeteria with him and he starts saying that stuff is all made up, what would be your answer to him? And what makes East Germans different that West? Is it because they were communists for so long? I am sorry about sounding stupid in this, but this is the type of stuff they don't tell you in school. I never knew Norb could go to jail for being an idiot. I think it would be funny to see the police show up though to tell him to quit being stupid.

Hey Phil, thanks, I think this thread is ever so much better now that cool stuff is getting talked about -- I hope it reaches a thousand. We are learning about each other's culture and that is way cool. About the Estonian -- you are going to laugh. I asked my grandfather what he said when one of his friends calls him up on the phone! So You are right. He is kind of cool because he has some Estonian friends and they all walk down to downtown Saint Petersburg and sit on these green benches and feed pigeons and talk dirty about women in Estonian. His father sent him out of the country when he was 5 and disapeered into a Gulag in Russia, and he has the boat tickets to Sweden still. Great Grandpa just disapeered -- he was a sheet metal worker so he never had enough money to find him, and now its to late of course. He says in Estonian "away with the days snow" which is prettier in Estonian. Now I have another question, and the people from Germany may not like it, but they seem really cool so I will ask it. I have a friend at JC named Norbert who is from Liezpip (something like that) and he was telling me the concentration camps were made up by the Americans to justify the war. He is a history major, but something like that seems a bit odd. Do many Germans talk about that part of the war, or do they just sort of skip over the whole Hitler thing in school like they skip over slavery in school here?

halloo (My grandad saus that is Estonian) I did a web search and came up with some neat stuff! This say Soviets stamped your nationality on your passport, so even the Soviets did not buy the everyone is Russian thing: http://www.prio.no/html/osce-russianminorities.htm This one talks about how uptight the Russians got over upity baltics: http://eserver.org/history/baltic-history.txt I found a bunch of other stuff which I will read again and report on. I am almost finished with the research book, and it says pretty much what BigTime was saying about research. It does have one great term though I thought I would share: Luddite. I am still figuring everything that this terms means, but it it funny to read this books description of anti-science people. (I never new there was pro science and antiscience people until I met them here!) tänuavaldus

Cool, so someone who is hard core Russian wont want to even admit that other people than Russians exist in the Soviet Union. I really think it is like the South (I live in the South, but in Florida, not really part of the South) were some people are still uptight over black people even if they are not bigots.

That one died when someone got mad at being called an eastern canadian . This is cool anyway, and the guys who own this place have not shut it down. Probably because it is a zoo -- hey look at that Combatboy -- throw him a peanut! Hey look, a real live Vanir! And that is a great example of a Hofbauer. Look over at that cage though.... Opps, look at what those two are doing in the cage!!!!

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aussie Smith: Combat... I acknowlege your points - but lets just say I would like reason to prevail. Yes in 1956 the Olympics were in Melbourne. And just FYI I was not just highlighting you in my previous post but a view on the total take on the way this thread is/was heading. Cheers Craig Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie Oi Oi Oi Ps Statistically Australia is about 4 times ahead of everyone else in the medal count for a country with >20m people we're doing bloody well <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Thanks for being so cool Aussie. (The Aussies are kicking butt! What is every other Aussie an Olympis athlete or something. Everytime you turn around there is some race with three of them in it.) Aussie you are right -- but notice that the Hofbauer guy and the Slapdragon guy and the Vanir guy are having a nice conversation without the flames, maybe not about the King Tiger (which Rocks!!!) but they are really adult and all. Makes me feel better about my elders! And to help the eastern Canada guy, just assume if you do not understand who I am talking about it is about you!!!! I have a cool tee-shirt: "I am not paranoid -- everyone really is out to get me!" I am waiting for that other guy though to stick his head in and say, "Uh, I can't figure out that constitution thing so you all are stupid...duh." Then the party will start all over again!! I have to say even if some of you have a twist in the old shorts that is making you grumpy (be happy -- I play Carmagedden when I get grumpy ), that almost everyone else is about the nicest group of people I have ever met. Which is weird cause you spend most of your time blowing things up with your computer "Tune in next week for As the Turret Turns: will Hofbauer convince Slapdragon English is the official language? Will Aussie Smith win the Olympic 1000m Combat Mission event? Will people start being nice to the guy from Eastern Canada?"

Hey Aussie Boy, what you gotta realize is this thread went flame a long time ago when Mr. Canada told everyone they were being bad to Eastern Canadians, and that means you probably wont ever get it back. And if you cannot talk about bigotry, which the board has plenty of, then it just hides its head. Don't blame me on the flames here, it started when those 88L71 (anyone know what the L means?) guys self destructed against Vanir and Slapdragon. I think if you want an adult thread you should have one, but this aint it and it ended with the guys who are trying to ignore it and call a Chicken a Cow and make everyone believe it! (By the way, didn't they have the Olympics in Melbourne? Just askin for another chat group). I agree with you that when the Canadian did the bigot thing about Easterners it was sad, thread was interesting to read until then, but he did it, and you can't just start a flame war then sit back and say, oh my -- everybody is so off topic. At my church they have a sign over the door that means a lot to me: "Reap the House You Keep." Well, the Sherman thread, the Sniper thread, and even the Caspar Weinberger thread are not like this one, they keep an orderly house and reap a real nice discussion. The Eastern Canadian guy killed it long back, so why not just have fun, point out flaws (and thank you for telling me mine!!! I like it! ) and relax. Maybe a new thread will start in a month and a different cast will be back, and then you can read something worth while! Hey Vanir, I am very happy about getting to be someone's sig!!!! Thanks a lot, it is great. I don't think it will help anyone listen to you here, but it is very nice. And BTS- The game is way cool. Thanks for making it. We may start a club at St. Petersburg Junior College, I will tell you if we do!