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  1. By costard

    anyone believing that the US will take orders from anyone else is not cognisant of anything relating to reality as it is experienced by anyone else living on this planet.

    That is rather my point. :)

    The sad truth is that the gas-guzzling way of life and the profit margins being generated by way of easy access to cheap oil are on their way out anyway - it will suit some people to complain that this is someone's fault (mostly Americans, funnily enough, but also anyone else who is going to lose real wealth).

    The carbon trading scham is merely a way of spending taxation largess that, five years ago, was being touted as likely to continue for ever with a never ending boom in the market.

    The result has been more sinister than that, at least here in Finland. Due to that trade the consumer price of electricity has been inflated because the companies calculate their cost on the basis of coal (and not other sources) while AFAIK no coal-using powerplant has been fired up in the last 5 years (at least). That way they have traded most of their carbon quota AND charged the customers top Euro.

    (no more wars guys, we can't afford them),

    WE can't afford them but the multi-national corporations can.

    this idea of a new bureaucracy with global reach will die.

    Only to be rearranged as a privately run business.

    Give it another six months for the reality of the money situation to sink in - the policy makers will only be two years behind reality, a bit better than par.

    By that point they will start printing more money and/or selling public services to the private sector at an increased rate.

  2. I think the root is revolt, rather than revolve

    Not according to

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=revolution&searchmode=none

    revolution 1390, originally of celestial bodies, from O.Fr. revolution, from L.L. revolutionem (nom. revolutio) "a revolving," from L. revolutus, pp. of revolvere "turn, roll back" (see revolve). General sense of "instance of great change in affairs" is recorded from c.1450. Political meaning first recorded 1600, derived from French, and was especially applied to the expulsion of the Stuart dynasty under James II in 1688 and transfer of sovereignty to William and Mary. Revolutionary as a noun is first attested 1850, from the adjective. Revolutionize "to change a thing completely and fundamentally" is first recorded 1799
  3. By ASL Veteran

    I don't know how you can have consultative status with the United Nations (aka UN) and not be operating in the UN.

    Wikipedia to the rescue.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consultative_Status

    Consultative Status has its foundation in Article 71 of Chapter 10 of the United Nations Charter:

    "The Economic and Social Council may make suitable arrangements for consultation with non-governmental organizations which are concerned with matters within its competence. Such arrangements may be made with international organizations and, where appropriate, with national organizations after consultation with the Member of the United Nations concerned." In 1948, shortly after the founding of the United Nations, there were 45 NGOs in Consultative Status, mostly large international organizations. Currently there are 2719 NGOs in consultative status with the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC), and some 400 NGOs accredited to the Commission on Sustainable Development (CSD).

    Sounds to me these group are there for lobbying.

    It's in the quoted section in my response to Jon S below the link I posted where this quote can be found. Apparently Jon S believes that a consultant doesn't operate within the organization that it consults with.

    How do you define "operate within the organization" ? Sinister or benevolent operation ?

  4. By Elmar Bijlsma

    Non-oil consumer in an oil consuming world. It should be no surprise to anyone that doesn't go very well. Aside from not being quite so fundamentalist about it it'll be easier if the whole of society is making the gradual change with you.

    I would have thought the entire film was available on youtube. :(

    Anyhow, the wife went nuts when she learned regular toothpaste was out as it contains chemical byproducts from oil. Also, hauling food out of the stores was no picnic as most prepackaged food are in plastic containers (or containers containing plastics). To name but a few gripes.

    But that trend is already under way, regardless of green industry. It's why western nations should be at the front of the queue on green industry: To get a head start and smooth out our fall from dominance. It's probably going to prolong the West's current position in the world, if anything.

    Well, since all production is being transferred out the populace is getting unemployed and simply can not afford to go or choose green. The intentions may be good and proper but it will get trampeled under consumers not being able to sustain the development due to lack of funds.

  5. Elmar Bijlsma

    And even if it was all bollocks, which all the clues say it isn't, why not just develop green energy to piss off the Saudis?

    That is not that simple. There was a documentary about a family trying to make do without any oil products for a year.

    http://video.google.com/videosearch?client=opera&rls=en&q=Katastrofin+aineksia&sourceid=opera&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=fv3jSrm5JpPS-Qab1YXJCQ&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CBEQqwQwAw#

    Honestly ASL Vet, you are in serious tinfoil territory here. Pretty much everyone wins, even if global warming is a myth.

    With all the production being moved to low-labour-cost countries there will be hell to pay before EVERYBODY gets their share of the winnings though.

  6. The reality of the change in the climate is obvious. IMO the real guestion is if the human activity triggered the global warming and can we really do anything to alter the course.

    Of course there is an agenda behind the whole debate. The wealthy want to get wealthier. Or at least retain their edge over the masses. As things stand the global economy is unsustainable in the long run. So is continuous economic growth. Social justice good and proper but as long as the global economy is the order of the day we should follow the money to see who gets the justice socially.

  7. By bitchen frizzy

    Well, I guess the USSR really was a workers' paradise! I wonder why it didn't last, with all of that stability.

    The non-secular west seduced the people with the opium for the masses. Which in this particular case was money and external wealth.

    Seriously, does the author of that piece have any valid examples to support that claim? He or she might be conflating "pluralistic" and "secular," I suspect.

    IMO the most happy and stable societies are culturally homogenous (be it secular or religious). Ie. multi-cultural societies are more susceptible to tensions and conflicts which cause instability and unhappiness.

    Mind you stability and happiness are in turn relative and not necessarily measurable homogenously between different societies.

  8. By YankeeDog

    This is not to say Mac are completely maintenance/problem free. But in my experience, they require far less maintenance/upkeep time and knowledge than PCs.

    In other words if you do get problems you have to use professional help which way more expensive and in addition to that harder to come by than help for PC.

    the additional upfront cost of a Mac is partially offset by lower maintenance expenses

    Excluding having to use outside help to solve bigger problems.

    The Mac also comes with some very useful software right out of the box for no additional charge.

    Not being a charity Apple has factored in these expenses in the cost of the machine.

    Mind you, the last truly user friendly MS OS was W2K, XP was a step towards Vista. And Vista sucks through a garden hose.

  9. by hcrof

    Its disgusting really what they did to him, especially with what he accomplished. The guy probably deserved a knighthood and yet they castrated him.

    He did violate standing laws. And I think he did so knowingly. He knew the risks and got nicked.

    Mind you, what about the others who were castrated according to the same law ? Where is their apology ?

    I think this apology was brought on by the WWII anniversary. An obvious publicity stunt if I ever saw one.

    I'm glad that I grew up in a more tolerent society where there are equal rights for all.

    I wish that was truly the case. But I think you are mistaken when it comes to both tolerance and equal rights.

  10. ;1155833']Would there be fewer obese people if they drank sodas which contained only glucose? Maybe marginally so, but I doubt you could show it outside a controlled experiment as shown in the movie.

    I have a slight problem with the inevetability of obesity argument that Lustig seems to propose. Parents could just give their kids water to drink. Not cool enough? Serve water in colorful bottles with cool designs. So maybe some people/parents are really ignorant, but I think there are way more obese people than people who are ignorant of the fact that coke and pepsi contain a lot of sugar.

    So the safest bet is to blame the victims ? This is the kind of attitude which promotes the problems. What is the point in researching and criticising the food were are being fed if the rising problems are due to the afflicted people being lazy both physically and mentally, right ?

    Not so long ago obese people were invariably wealthy. Now obese people (in the West at least) are for the most part poor. For the price of 1kg oranges you can by anywhere up to 10 liters of orange juice. Processed food used to be expensive compared to basic foodstuffs. Yes, there are more people around to consume the food. But the current explosing of health problems is NOT due to fat people being lazy cretins, it is because the drive to maximise profit far exceeds the need for the people to have access to healthy food.

  11. ;1155282']I think a better way of saying "a calorie is not a calorie" would be to say: DonĀ“t consume substance classes in excess of the amount the amount of subtance your body was designed to consume. Not as sexy' date=' but not as misleading.[/quote']

    True in a sense. Except you really should know what you are eating. What you are eating is not always the same you THINK you are eating. This is why the "hidden" fructose (or rather fructose/glucose syrup) is really devious. We could be (are ?) fed cardboard made delicious with the syrup, fats and salt and we think it is genuine and healthy.

  12. From the evolutionary standpoint there glucose is infinitely beneficial. In olden times people would come autumn (litterally) fatten themselves with berries, fruits etc for the oncoming winter. Survival was preferable and in the few weeks glucose was available in nature it had to go straight into the waistline. Now with refigeration, global economy and year round, steady availability of nutrition (in the West at least) our bodies have not adabted.

    Mind you, evolution would explain the different results in studies between people of African and European descent.

  13. If you're gorging yourself on Krispy Kreme, Pringles and Wonder Bread hot dogs, I don't think you can say that you were duped.

    There is evidence that tobacco companies add(ed ?) substances which induce addiction. What are the odds the food industry does NOT use similar methods to boost sales ?

    And the fact that the liver processes fructose the same way it processes alcohol is not too widely known or publicised.

  14. Tero - from your comment I get the feeling you have not watched the video. Sugars can be that bad. And sugar makes fat ..... but please watch the movie.

    Watched it. The lecture points out quite proficiently that ADDED FRUCTOSE in processed foods without fibers to go with it is bad for you.

    I still maintain that SUGAR alone is not bad for you. I was taken aback by the fact about how much salt is in a soda. ;)

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