CM-Kane Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Hi CM addicts, this is my first post in this forum and i have to say outstanding game! The new engine rocks and all the new stuff, it's incredible. But there is something i don't understand: I read the manual and it says the Panther D, A have a 60mm lower front hull, but the model G early has a 50mm plate. That's something driving me nuts, because i never heard from a 50mm front plate. Even CMBO, CMBB and CMAK simulates the Panther with correct front hull. Why is it modeled with 50mm in CMBN? Is there a reliable source? I hope my english isn't that bad... Thx for answers. Sincerely Kane 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Kane, Welcome on board! You have a good eye for catching details in the manual. Regarding your question, I have Jentz's "Germany's Panther Tank", Schiffer Publishing, 1995, open at my desk right now. On page 86 it states that the Ausf. G differs from both the A and D by having a "Front Lower Hull" armor of "50 mm @ 55 degrees", whereas the A and D have, as you stated, 60 mm at the same slope. Jentz uses the manufacturer's drawings for his references. I hope you consider him a reliable source. (I do not know what source(s) BF.C used for their armor values.) The manual in CMBN appears to be correct. Regards, Ken 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Interesting. I only have "Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War 2" - Chamberlain, Doyle, Jentz which lists all 3 as 60mm@55, but this book is originally published in 1978 ( my copy is the 1999 reissue ). Clearly Jentz collaborated on this, but I assume new information came to light for your book which hasn't made it into the reissue of mine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG11Preusse Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Panther D Turmblende (gewölbt) 120mm Turmfront (Neigung 78°) 80mm Turmseiten (65°) 45mm Turmheck (62°) 45mm Turmdach (2 bis 7°) 15mm Wannenbug (35°) 60mm Fahrerfront (35°) 80mm Wannenseite (unten 90°, oben 50°) 40mm Wannenheck (60°) 40mm Wannenboden (0°) 20+13mm Panther A Turmblende (gewölbt) 120mm Turmfront (Neigung 78°) 110mm Turmseiten (65°) 45mm Turmheck (62°) 45mm Turmdach (2 bis 7°) 15mm Wannenbug (35°) 60mm Fahrerfront (35°) 80mm Wannenseite (unten 90°, oben 50°) 40mm Wannenheck (60°) 40mm Wannenboden (0°) 20+13mm Panther G Turmblende (gewölbt) 120mm Turmfront (Neigung 78°) 100 mm (Neigung 80°) Turmseiten (65°) 45mm Turmheck (62°) 45mm Turmdach (2 bis 7°) 30mm Wannenbug (35°) 60mm Fahrerfront (35°) 80mm Wannenseite (unten 90°, oben 50°) unten =, oben 50 mm (Neigung 60°) Wannenheck (60°) 40mm Wannenboden (0°) 20+13mm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM-Kane Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 Thx for your answers!! Jentz is of course a reliable source, but i never heard it before. All my books about german tanks say Panther has 60mm. Even Spielberger and his book Panther and it's variants say 60mm. Maybe i will buy the book of Jentz. Sincerely Kane 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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