CptWasp Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 I think that in near-plain scenarios LOS works pretty well now. But in the hills there's something strange... A small premise: In reality soldiers are normally instructed to defend high terrain deploying not just on the reverse side of a hill or crest, because on the crest line you are very visible from below. So you have two options: if the enemy occupies another hill in front of you, you can position yourself on the reverse side of the hill, but distant from the crest line, taking in your LOF the crest line; it's a risky thing, because you will see the attacking enemy later, but for Germans in the Montecassino area worked well. If the enemy in UNDER you, you can deploy on the front side of the hill, under the crest line. This is normal procedure for Italians Alpini too. In CMSF the first tactic works well... maybe TOO well! If you deploy on the reverse side at effective weapon range you will deliver havoc on attackers. They are exposed on the front side of the hill during attack, and before they can find cover and identify attackers they will be decimated. But the second one doesn't work at all. Simply put, defending from high terrain gives more problems than advantages in CMSF. And the basic problem is in LOS. On steep hills I have a very difficult time finding a place with a good LOS on troops directly under me. They see me, and fire; I don't see them well, or more often I have LOS and no LOF (they are on "the reverse side" for the LOS tool and I con't fire). I think that the cause is in the LOS system itself: in the real world, when you are in a high position and you are defending against troops under you, you will position yourself prone, exposing only head and arms, taking under aim the terrain under you without becoming exposed with the body. IN CMSF this doesn't work, because troops firing from above see the enemy under them only exposing themselves (usually with devastating losses). A possible solution could be tracing the LOF (only for units on hills, and only if firing to an enemy under them) from a point A LITTLE higher than the "graphical" head of the soldier, giving him a better view of the terrain under him. Ok, very long post, sorry; what I say is that when I'm on hills I feel myself too much vulnerable, more than I feel it should be in real world. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomm Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 You are not imagining things. I recently started a thread on the subject, sharing exactly the same observations as you describe: Latest discussion of this issue. From what I read, I do not expect a solution to this problem any time soon. Best regards, Thomm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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