Phullbrick Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Look at this, a T72 engages a M2A2 at less than 200 meters (1st shoot, must be HEAT then). You can clearly see the point of impact on the upper front side of the Bradley, which manages to survive and keep firing. I'm not a tank expert, but I have mixed feeling about the fact that a heat shell can't destroy a IFV at short distance. link to short video (~3 mb) : http://www.mille-sabords.com/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=6964 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stikkypixie Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I remember something about the effect of HEAT rounds not being dependent on distance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirabelleBenou Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I'm the oppoment of Phullbrick. The scenario is Hammertime. What I can say is that my Brad guys are fine The Brad only took minor dommages to tracks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeDog Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Indeed. With a HEAT round, range doesn't really matter at all. All that matters is where the round hits, and at what angle. You also can't really draw any conclusions from a single incident. Luck in war is a capricious thing, and every once in a while a Bradley probably would survive a 122mm HEAT hit. Not very often, but occasionally. So I don't think you have all that much to complain about, based on one isolated incident. If it's happening consistently, that's another matter. As to the instant case, I don't know if CMSF models hit location to this degree of accuracy, but it looks like the round impacts on the upper left corner of the front glacis, more or less flat to the ground, but at an outward angle, away from the vehicle's centerline. Such a hit might not penetrate the fighting compartment at all, but rather cause a "through and through," with the penetration jet punching through the front glacis, and then immediately out the side of the vehicle. This would also explain the track damage. In short, impossible to tell for sure without more data points, but it's quite possible that you just got very unlucky. Cheers, YD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phullbrick Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 thanks for your pov, I must say I agree with you yes I was already assuming a bad luck when I watched the turn video I guess I can keep on crying and wait to catch one of those bradley's ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka_tom_w Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 if the round hit the front sprocket of the track then it was a track hit (or an M-Kill) with no substantial damage to the main body of the vehicle. A very lucky shot indeed for the Bradley. Sometime stuff like that happens. not very often I hope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirabelleBenou Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Yep, sure I was lucky on this. I can tell that I got a big big fear when I saw the T-72 coming with the gun pointing on my Bradley. My guys react very well and on time (cancel target and fire on the tank, and the Jav team who fired quickly) and it was a pleasure, but it was hot for me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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