evo6tme Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 How do u get at guns to aim at specific parts of a tank? i`ve tried defensive training part 2 about 30 times and always the same result, i`m killed. As soon as the 3 panzer 3`s arive they wipe both at guns out 1`st shot. I`ve tried abandoning the at guns until closser range, dosnt work,as soon as i man them again,bang i`m dead. Am i missing something becouse if training is imposible whats the game like ? i`ve preorderd but might just be regreting a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artie Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 If the crew is killed, you can man the guns with the another soldiers. You can shoot on the specific tank parts too (turret, hull, chassis), ofcourse. ToW is a hard game, but not so hard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo6tme Posted April 18, 2007 Author Share Posted April 18, 2007 yeh done that until no men left to man guns. ap shells just miss or bounce of armour. I dont seem to be able to aim at specific tak parts though i.e the turret were the armour is weaker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 If you take a look at the aiming button, you'll find three small cross-hairs to the side of the large cross-hairs. You can click on all three to shoot at turret, hull or tracks/lower hull respectively. Obviously, top one fires at turret, bottom one at tracks/lower hull. Alternatively use {ALT}+{1},{2} or {3} on the keyboard. About that training mission... yeah, it's tough, but no, not indicative of how the game plays. To be honest I'm not really sure why it plays the way it does. The PzIIIs that are doing the bulk of gun crew killing aren't elite or something, yet they are displaying a frightening accuracy. I find abandoning the guns the best method and then wait till they start moving. This'll throw of their aim a bit so if you re-crew your guns you can catch him on the move. Want to hear something truly awful? Once you kill that wave... you'll have to start nearly the same thing again. [ April 18, 2007, 08:05 AM: Message edited by: Elmar Bijlsma ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artie Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 You can see the three small cross-hairs on the Attack icon? If you click on one of them, you can change the specific parts targeting. Good option may be to immobilize the tanks first (target on chassis) edit: Elmar was faster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 PS, you may wish to select your ammo type. You've got two kinds, the one you've got fewest off (APCR) is most effective at penetrating armour. I find it best to fire the good ammo first so as to make the first hit you get count for something.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo6tme Posted April 18, 2007 Author Share Posted April 18, 2007 Cheers for the info guys i`ll give it another go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panzer Boxb Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Good information there. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppelhopser Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I cracked that mission finally after about seven hair pulling attempts. Kept the PAKs on the right rear edge of the deployment zone with reserve crew. That way not all tanks see you from the beginning. Was still hairy but I succeeded and won the second half too, albeit very close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iplaygames2 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I'm having the same problem. The PzIIIs kill my gun crews (note the plural..I crew them with every man I've got) in 1 shot. My AT guys don't even have time to aim, much less fire. Those Panzers are wicked gunners, I guess. And the one time I did get past the first wave, the 2nd wave decimated me, again, with their first volley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Stoppelhopser is on the right track. For a more complete guide go here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iplaygames2 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Looks like that guide was written when there were only 3 light tanks, and no PzIIIs. Did that demo mission get changed or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo6tme Posted April 18, 2007 Author Share Posted April 18, 2007 I did it eventually by hiding the AT crews behind the bushes with stay prone,dont move or fire comands then waited until panzer III`s got close then took the first 2 out ( the 3rd one stays in the rear as cover) then i unmounted the AT guns again and hid until the 3rd tank comes closer for a look and boom 3 dead pzIII`s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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