Huntarr Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Apparently everyone in the year 2008 has become some sort of drug induced psycho that can fight to the death. Even U.S. troops won’t break and run. If they are cowering just wait they will get right back in the fight. 1 vs 100? Sure why not, I just watched 300 and if Leonidas can stand then why can’t I? Just saw 8 of my buddies mowed down, my Stryker is a burning hulk, that invulnerable M1 looks like Swiss cheese, :eek: but I’m feeling much better now. :cool: I think I’ll start shooting back with my small arms at some armor, not crawl away and change my shorts. Where did surrendering go? Breaking and running? Capturing? Really we have Abu Ghraib and Gitmo. Let’s put some enemy combatants there. Hope I didn’t offend anyone who has family there. Seriously why doesn’t anyone route or at the least move away? I hope it’s a bug that will be addressed. I really want to like the game but there are just some tiny things that are making it a Love/Hate relationship. [ August 03, 2007, 03:03 PM: Message edited by: Huntarr ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtweasle Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Yea, I noticed that too. I was able to see some enemy troops with their arms out-stretched horizontal, like a scarecrow, thought they were surrendering but they did not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntarr Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 the scarecrow thing is a bug. That's the default model for troops. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmithyG Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Originally posted by Dirtweasle: was able to see some enemy troops with their arms out-stretched horizontal...You'll want to avoid issuing a STL (sweep the leg) order in those situations. Johnny 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntarr Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 COBRA KI !!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntarr Posted August 3, 2007 Author Share Posted August 3, 2007 I stand corrected. Sorry about that BFC I should never have doubted you guys. The more I play the better this puppy is looking. Here is the evident to the contrary. I rarely ever prove myself wrong, but I have to man up and say they did include it in the game After my battle at the Airfield with the Syrian Spec Forces I was convinced no one ever surrendered or routed. In that scenario it may be the case of their fanaticism is so high, they want a Jihad. Thinking back now I understand why the Regulars pulled out after our air strike. I then was lead to the High Point Low Point scenario where Syrian regulars and reserves were engaged by a Recon unit followed up by a Stryker Plt. I took an overwatch position on the Left Ridge line and started hammering the valley with 2 Brad Cav Scouts. I saw 2 members of an HQ unit pop and exclamation marker over their heads then a couple of seconds later the vanished. They were not injured or killed out right. They were immediately removed from the list of the unit. The casualties were listed. These guys just bugged out. So it would appear that units don’t run back to the rear like CMx1. When someone Routes they just disappear. I can live with this. I have to admit got tired of gunning down routing troops in the old days. [ August 03, 2007, 04:23 PM: Message edited by: Huntarr ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childress Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Don't understand why they didn't include surrendering in this version. In the older titles it was a bit of pain, granted, marching the POWs to the back of your front line. And they often had to be escorted by *several* precious friendlies due to the absence of 1:1 representation. But with the full squad depicted it would have been so easy (methinks) to simply abstract a single member out of the battle along with the surrendering troops. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mud Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Perhaps it's a can of wyrms they didn't want to deal with. If you have units trying to surrender, for instance, you might have units shooting them anyway. You might also have units pretending to surrender, and then blowing themselves up or continuing the fight (ambush trigger) when others approach... as well as abusing prisoners as bullet-catchers for recon or so forth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Originally posted by Huntarr: I have to admit got tired of gunning down routing troops in the old days. Sacrilege! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 The fact that the enemy in question has some TRULY unpleasant ways of treating prisoners doesn't incline people to give up. Or do you think that Syrian uncons would nicer than Iraqi ones for some reason? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomni Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 It is actually stated in the introductory briefing of the campaign that the Syrian and the Insurgents are fanatical and will never give up. US troops don't give up as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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