Baron von Beergut Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Each of the 4 current nationalities have had a new plane added since the game came out so I don't think it's not likely or necessary for any more. It's pleasant to get more than you paid for with a game by having these updates/improvements, and the free online play, so I'm happy and content with that. But... players naturally always think of wanting more... Not necessary, but what is the likelyhood of adding additional nationalities? Russia being the most likely. I-16, MiG-1, 3, Lagg-3, La-5, 7, Yak-1,3,9, or whatever. And that in turn would open more campaign possibilities. I dug out my old snail mail Play by Mail game, "Victory! in Europe" that has a full size sheet of statistics on each of multiple planes for them, US, Brit, Ger. Quite a book full of that and other ground/air/naval stuff. Ok, I'll shut up and go back to my breakfast beer... just thinking out loud... BvB [ January 19, 2006, 02:03 AM: Message edited by: Baron von Beergut ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Herr Beergut, Its not such a bad thing to want more. I cant tell you what is coming as that is top secret and I am not a secret agent (hence they tell me nothing so i am as surprised as you). My guess is that Italy and Russia would be critical to any WWII game. Italys Re 2000 and MC 2005 would be dandy along with Soviet tin cans! France would be neat also as they had about a plane for every second they lasted until surrender. I do know it takes lots of time to do each plane. -Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 That's not very nice - go read the essay I posted a link to in this message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I will read it when I get up. Looks interesting. Thx -Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartbert Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Right now, the plan is to release other nationalities such as the Soviets in expansion packs. We haven't decided on a date for the first expansion pack yet, but I know Dan has been working steadily on the aircraft for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron von Beergut Posted January 19, 2006 Author Share Posted January 19, 2006 expansion packs? That's a good idea that would continue generating revenue. Don't know what an appropriate cost would be, but I'd likely buy into it. Thanks for the feedback... BvB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 My first thought when I read "esxpansion packs" was Yikes- more money. But as BvB pointed out - should certainly help you guys generate additional revenue. A good thing for you guys and for the game itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartbert Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I don't know what the price on the expansion packs will be, but I would guess that they'll be in the $10 to $15 range, depending on how many aircraft are included. You'll be getting a whole set of aircraft all in one shot, and as Sixxkiller mentioned, there is a fair amount of work that goes into each aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Originally posted by bartbert: I don't know what the price on the expansion packs will be, but I would guess that they'll be in the $10 to $15 range, depending on how many aircraft are included. You'll be getting a whole set of aircraft all in one shot, and as Sixxkiller mentioned, there is a fair amount of work that goes into each aircraft. My only request is that you make them downloadable rather than the only choice being a CD shipped via mail. Yes, we are always wanting something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartbert Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 The good news there is that Battlefront is working on providing the ability to download their games, and I suspect that will be in place well before the expansion is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Wow Russians in an expansion???? I am shocked. No one tells me anything around here! When I was sneaking around Area 51DIF I saw more than just Soviets. There were F-14's, F-22's, sU-27'S, mIG 31'S.... TOO MANY TO LIST! Hehe j/k -Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Verssen Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 This is all still up in the air still, but the plan is for an expansion to include: 1) One new nation with all the aircraft it needs to be equal with the first 4 nations. 2) A few new planes for each of the 4 current nations. 3) A half-dozen or so campaigns. 4) About a dozen new pilot skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistura Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I'm In!! When can I BUY BUY BUY!! MORE SKILLS! Yes! I want to so triple axle the 2:Destroy card. I can see more powerful planes! BIGGER GUNS!! AND.....to be shot down more easily. I can't WAIT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Any new nation is almost invariably going to have fewer guns!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistura Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I was looking for the post and didn't see my name on the subject. :confused: Of course I forgot you have to type REAL fast to post over StalinsO's. I just forgot to say. MORE CAMPAIGNS!! YES!! I can hear Stalins'O keyboard humming already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Verssen Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 It looks like some of the Soviet planes were well armed. Also, Brian has been deep in the coding dungeon crafting the newest treasures for the adventurous to discover. They should be ready for the light of day soon. I can almost hear him hammering away now... (CLANG)...(CLANG)...(CLANG)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 "Some" is a relative term - the heaviest armed single-seat fighter was the Yaroslavl produced LaGG 5 - with 3 20mm cannon - but the Moscow produced version only had 2 because there was a shortage of the lightweight guns that the a/c could carry 3 of - the Moscow ones carried the older heavier ones and only 2 could be fitted. Most Sov fighters have 1 20-23mm cannon with 1-2 machineguns, usually 12.7mm but often 7.62mm. Over 50% of the Russian fighter production in WW2 was the Yak family - these all had 1 cannon and 1-2 mg's - the Yak 9 was the single most produced fighter, and was mostly equipped with just the 1 HMG as well as the cannon (I'm excluding the anti-tank versions here! ) IIRC most of the modern fighter force in 1941 was Mig-3's, with 1 HMG and 2 rifle-calibre mg's. The last I-16 models were nominally armed with 2 x 20mm and 2 x 7.62mm, but it's by no means clear that even they always had the 20mm fitted, and the much more numerous earlier models had 4 x 7.62mm. I've read that the Soviet guns were very good - with high rates of fire and muzzle velocities - but they were still considered quite light armaments, even by the Soviets themselves. I'm happy to provide details Sorry to disppoint you Misty - but I'd rather wait until there's an intersting post to reply to! [ January 19, 2006, 02:43 PM: Message edited by: Stalin's Organist ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron von Beergut Posted January 19, 2006 Author Share Posted January 19, 2006 New skills too? Drool... Makes it sound even more interesting! This may not be a new skill, but an idea that would be neat to have: Currently when a pilot is killed, that's it - gone. What if instead, there would be a random chance that he was either seriously wounded or lost in enemy territory? Then there could be a chance that at some future date on line you'd get a surprise message when you're about to create a new pilot/wingy that this pilot/wingy had either been released from the hospital or made it back to friendly lines. And then you could assign him with all his previous experience/skills. Might be too difficult to code in, but sounds nice anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartbert Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 We have actually discussed having a tournament where the prize would be having a "dead" pilot returned to action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Not sure I want any of my dead pilots back - I'm getting the hang of mixing skills now & my current ones are better than my old ones!! A dozen new skills is interesting - will existing pilots get a chance to trade in old ones for new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I also toyed with tournaments where you would get skills for winning. I went Down In Flames along with most of my ideas hehe. Expect to see the tournament posted in the next hour or so. -Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Guess what nationality I'm hoping for?! Yak-3 at Wanaka, New Zealand, 1998 Polikarpov I-16, same place & year the same aeroplane in 2000 painted in Republican Spanish colours I-153 at Wanaka 2000 - in Nationalist chinese Colours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musgrove Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Must have VVS! (the Russian airforce!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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