Terif Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 As long as the tile it came from stays in the colour of the enemy nation, it will never again appear - i.e. you have 3 possibilities: - in Russia just avoid moving into partisan infested terrain so it stays russian and you won´t have a partisan problem there - or e.g. in Yugoslavia let the partisan either move away and kill it somewhere else - or kill the partisan with airstrikes then the tile it was standing on will also not turn to your side and therefore no partisans can appear any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin I Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 The airstrike thing always bothered me. Apart from what Terif says, I think an airstrike is a particularly poor tool for hunting Partisans who tend to blend in with the civilian population. Half spotting range for aircraft vs Partisans, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 More valuable information from my LGF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Terif just picked something I'm shocked with and didn't think of ! Partisans are good training missions for untrained LW though! So you can acquire 2 or 3 bars on them in the off season for those newly built Luftflottes and Axis Minor AFs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Nah, the training is old news. Back in SC-1, with RACK, I'd send carriers to blast away on partisans. Also, leaving the land to the enemy works too, I just get too lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n0kn0k Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Seems to classify more as a bug then a game-mechanic. I wonder if Hubert will fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollyguy Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 As usual Terif is a wealth of information, so I'll utilize his info on partisans and hex color for my 1.05 games, but IMO the color of the hex should have nothing to do with whether a partisan appears. I hope this is fixed in 1.06, as it makes it too easy to control partisans. Now that the cat is out of the bag all the regular players will utilize this exploit. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terif Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Just think a little further - it´s not a bug, only realistic (just because you don´t understand something at the first glance doesn´t mean it is a bug, btw a term used a bit too much inflationary...while when you think a bit deaper in most cases such things are not a bug but the logical consequence of the abstract concept of SC2 ): With airstrikes you may be able to destroy / scatter larger partisan formations in corps size so they won´t be able to put up a real fight any more, but without ground troops you will never be able to clear a territory completely from enemy forces - i.e. it will remain in enemy hands until you send ground units...and that is exactly how it works now in SC2 . P.S.: trying to train air units is not a really good idea and usually only contributes to the demise of the training side - it is only a waste of mpps and time...(very bad cost-revenue ratio...) experience will be collected automatically in the normal missions they have to fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Correct, training Air on partisans is a waste. Why? You've got enough targets to deal with & stuff to do. Granted, if stuck in winter weather and nothing else better, plug 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n0kn0k Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Originally posted by Terif: Just think a little further - it´s not a bug, only realistic (just because you don´t understand something at the first glance doesn´t mean it is a bug, btw a term used a bit too much inflationary...while when you think a bit deaper in most cases such things are not a bug but the logical consequence of the abstract concept of SC2 ): With airstrikes you may be able to destroy / scatter larger partisan formations in corps size so they won´t be able to put up a real fight any more, but without ground troops you will never be able to clear a territory completely from enemy forces - i.e. it will remain in enemy hands until you send ground units...and that is exactly how it works now in SC2 That logic can be applied exactly the other way also though ;p With no effective fighting units on the ground the partisans can't control the territory either. One can also reason then that the occupational troops / police force can handle things again. It's like the thing they are trying to get going in Iraq also They cleanup organised resistance, and hand things over again. But with ownership beeing as it is now wouldn't it be alot more logical for partisans to pop up again in a region where enemy control is less or fully gone? It would be hard to code, that's for sure, but imho alot more logical. As it is now you are giving up territory just so partisans won't pop up again. It just seems wrong to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollyguy Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 I agree nOknOk (did I spell that right?). If anything the partisans "holding" the Allied colored ground would result in more actual fighting partisans popping up, as they setup defacto government structures and harness new recruits. So IMO the Axis failing to reclaim partisan colored tiles should face an increasing number of partisans, rather than none. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 U guys are getting into to many details about partisans. If you're going to say this and that about uprising, then remember how the Bunta Nazis just wasted civilians too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terif Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Yep - this discussion could be continued endlessly like most history discussions... e.g.: if Axis leave these territories to the uprising civilians and lastly grant them autonomy, then they have no more reasons to form larger partisan units since they already reached their goal to get rid of any oppression and now live peacefully with their axis neighbours...i.e. no partisans in corps size any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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