Desert Dave Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Originally posted by Lars: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by arado234: Lars im not sure what your getting at about the Mark #S. The Mark V 1943(about.6500 built) The Mark VI one and two 1942(about 1900 built). Ever wonder why the Mark VI came out before the Mark V? </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Ah, pardon. Not near "nuts & bolts" enuff, I am doing foolish stuff again. Well, I was - pretending to be The old-days... Kuni. When he was abrim With outrageous Loki-like banter. Alas, now - and how? I ain't actually got much clue, He's gotten... "normalized," And, institutionally true. Wasn't how he once was constituted, but, Shoot the blue right outta the Moon, What CAN you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Originally posted by Desert Dave: Is it vital to know? It is if you want to discuss manufacturing. Tiger was actually designed pre-war but rejected. When it came time though, it was a much simpler tank to produce. All flat plate. Still, had major transmission (and other) problems due to weight, and was very expensive to produce. The Panther was a rush job (so got the earlier Mark number), but even so, the Germans, being Germans, did their usual over-engineering job, even while trying to avoid over-engineering it. The Americans just gyro-stabilized the gun. The Germans stabilized the whole damn tank, making the chassis extremely complex. And they didn't have the machine tools to do the gearing right, leading to frequent breakdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Originally posted by Lars: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Desert Dave: Is it vital to know? It is if you want to discuss manufacturing. Tiger was actually designed pre-war but rejected. When it came time though, it was a much simpler tank to produce. All flat plate. Still, had major transmission (and other) problems due to weight, and was very expensive to produce. The Panther was a rush job (so got the earlier Mark number), but even so, the Germans, being Germans, did their usual over-engineering job, even while trying to avoid over-engineering it. The Americans just gyro-stabilized the gun. The Germans stabilized the whole damn tank, making the chassis extremely complex. And they didn't have the machine tools to do the gearing right, leading to frequent breakdowns. </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Well, first off, skip the carb and go fuel injected with turbo. Carbs are cheaper to work with, but the real fun lies the other way. You might find these interesting. http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arado234 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Lars i have no idea why the Tiger came out before the Panther.From what ive learned it was because the Tiger design started before the Panther(the hull easier to make on the Tiger looks sort of similar to the markIV?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arado234 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Desert Dave those were quite interesting posts(your last two) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Originally posted by Lars: Well, first off, skip the carb and go fuel injected with turbo. Carbs are cheaper to work with, but the real fun lies the other way. You might find these interesting. http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html A MegaSquirt! By Bowling & Grippo! LOLOL! Danke Minnetonka! I could maybe use that to power up The pop-top on my '71 VW Kamper Wagen? :cool: [... actually, IMO only, the Americans haven't made a decent auto since 'round about 1971, but, that's another topic for another day, eh?] Anyway, haven't had such a swell belly-laugh Since, well, just yesterday it was, Watching while my crazy majestic cat Chased after a newly falling leaf! See, There was this clumsy-dusty desert breeze And that (... deceased, yet! Still alive and kicking! Same as humans once they run out of gas and leave) leaf Would swerve & sway, Near to the earth only! To - suddenly - fly high away! well, That cat's au naturel antics got me laughing So very long and hard, That I couldn't remember ONE... single... thing RE: Production #'s of WW2! OK, OK, I hear! The majority, who, As we realize, are always RIGHT, and - accede... back O/T: I STILL say - improved PzIV's, IE Better armoured and contoured, And perhaps - up-gunned oh, ~ 13 mm Or so, would have carried The leibensraum day... IOW, T-34's OR - JS jalopies (.... ah, presumably WITH those new-fangled radios the Commies somehow? Accidentally omitted) AND, Some post 1919 doctrine & tactics learned From die grosse posing Bosche, Wouldn't have done lickspittle good Grinding around in 8-shaped circles Out beyond the Urals, nope nein, Which is where they WOULD have retreated to IF only -> His Kampf the Dumbkopf Had stayed OUT Of his Generals' way, well, Thank the bars & stars that didn't occur! But anyway, an adroitly Assembled tandem of Panther And Tiger (... sechs & funf as we appreciate) would ONLY be required For the 954 years of occult-consulted Whole world domination Beyond 1945 How do I KNOW this to be true? Look at the numbers man! You'll notice that... 954 And 1945 Are nearly the same! Merely the "one" is affixed To the latter symbol, And two other signifiers, The 4 and the 5're - uncannily! juxtaposed! And so, How I reckon it - THAT is Some kind of NON-erroneous And most harmonious configuration That NO self-respecting WW2 Buff, nor, enny Platonic, cave-dwelling, Wall-shadow observing Historian Can EVEN begin to disdain. IMHO. Desert Dave those were quite interesting posts(your last two) ThanX Arado234! But, I do believe yer in the teeny tiny Minority on that there observation. Tho, TWO out of 3344-odd, ain't bad, nope, Not squalid or shabby at'all, I'll take it! Say, Enny interest in some play Mainly For fun - wargaming? I wouldn't mind testing out My own humbly done '39 mod, Which should be ready, oh, In about a month. Would be sooner, but the Holidays And other pressing family matters preclude Any earlier encounter. (... just now finishing up the French OOB's... to include unique Motor, Mech, Cavalry, Mountain, TAC, Grogs, Frogs falling from outta the sky, and some other tres petit tri-coloured units besides!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Originally posted by Desert Dave: Sure, jazz up the bus. Scare some punk kid at a stoplight. We were toying with putting one on an alcohol-fueled go-cart that we had. Nice little system that you can build yourself, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Originally posted by Lars: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Desert Dave: Sure, jazz up the bus. Scare some punk kid at a stoplight. We were toying with putting one on an alcohol-fueled go-cart that we had. Nice little system that you can build yourself, really. </font>Given wut the kids are driving These days, I could, actually, probably beat 'em With - Bessie the Blue bus! Used to race gasoline powered go-carts, WITH, eventually, a roll-bar welded on, Else, I'd likely not be here Shootin' the shinola today! Thing is... I used to be able to remove The hood, say, On the '57 Chev 283 cid, Or, later, the '65 Goat tri-carb 389, And be able to sit on the wheel-well And find EVERYTHING quiet easily, For the required (... and, CONSTANT) fine-tuning. :cool: Now? I open the wife's "help me Rhonda" Honda, And damned if I even know What it is I'm lookin' at. OK, it's a young man's game now, WRT to just about ANYTHING, and, well, I can live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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