lazysack Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Playing this game has piqued my interest in the armour aspect of the fighting in WW2 (I've been into planes almost exclusively up till now). I'd like any suggestions on books where I might find out a little more about the tanks and other armour used in this game, as well as the Eastern front (soviet) tanks.. Specs, applications, diagrams.. That sort of stuff.. Also, does anyone know if a poster exists with some of the more popular (or populous, as the case might have been) tanks of both the Axis and Allies powers.. Just the side and front views, and brief specs. Thanks alot! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaylord Focker Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 I would suggest Stalingrad by Anthony Beevor. Somewhat recently i picked up The Battle for Leningrad by Glantz, have yet to start it reading it though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlichtingen Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Originally posted by Gaylord Focker: I would suggest Stalingrad by Anthony Beevor.I highly recommend you don't waste your time with Beevor's 'Stalingrad'. Aside from being one of the worst books written on the subject, it has little to do with the topic you are looking for 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 For quick reference you can find quite a lot on the internet these days, just write the complete name of the vehicle and do a search. For in depth view on German tanks specifically, Walter J Spielberger, along with Jentz I guess, would be the names to look for. They've published a series of books covering many of the models, normally carrying the title of the vehicle covered. They are not very well written, the texts bearing evidence of little ambition to entertain, but they are highly authoratitive and packed with data. Including cut-through views, photo's etc. Fleischer has written a few good ones on the topic as well. Don't know if those are translated though. You have the Chamberlain/Doyle volume too. Not very sexy but decent reference. If you are as disturbed a person as me you might enjoy the documents available at BA. I'd focus on the inspectorate reports as a good starter. Depends on your purpouses really. The specs and diagrams will be satisfied by the above. If you just want an idea what it was like serving in tanks, all the above is probably overkill. If armoured tactics is your aim you'd probably best go for a couple of solid divisional histories on the Panzer-Divisions instead. Or you could just start threads here on the forum Cheerio Dandelion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinzBaby Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 My companion bedside book for CMBO would have to be 'Overlord' by Max Hastings, He covers everything... from the Bloody fighting to the grubby Command infighting and Politics, blows away a few myths in the process, as the saying goes, a good read!. His other books 'Das Reich' and 'Bomber Command' are just as superb. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 I'd suggest Ken Tout's Tank, for a look at how British armour operated in Normandy at the lowest level. Tout was a loader and later tank commander in a Sherman of the County of Northamptonshire Yeomanry (the unit that finally got Wittmann). For a slightly higher level (i.e junior officer level) Keith Jones' 65 Days of a Normandy Summer is pretty good, Jones served in the Cromwell equiped recon regiment of the 11th Armoured Brigade. For the whole Normandy campaign John Keegan's 6 Armies in Normandy is one of the best bets. For a look at Normandy from a strategic level Carlo D'Este's Decision in Normandy can be hard work, but is a good look at what the likes of Churchill, Eisenhower, Monty, Dempsey and Bradley were up to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzertruppe Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 "Panzer Aces" is a good book covering all the fronts in WW2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaylord Focker Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Originally posted by Berlichtingen: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gaylord Focker: I would suggest Stalingrad by Anthony Beevor.I highly recommend you don't waste your time with Beevor's 'Stalingrad'. Aside from being one of the worst books written on the subject, it has little to do with the topic you are looking for </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlichtingen Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Originally posted by Gaylord Focker: Seriously? I'm not even close ot finsihing the book but am curious as to why you draw these conclusions of it. Is it laced wiith inaccuracies? Numerous inaccuracies. I probably wouldn't have noticed them if I hadn't been reading other things at the same time. The one example that I clearly remember is him mentioning Tigers in Manstein's attack... there weren't any Tigers in the south until after Stalingrad was a bad memory. Most of the things I spotted seemed to be geared toward making the Russian successes seem more spectacular (as if they didn't seem so anyway) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaylord Focker Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Originally posted by Berlichtingen: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gaylord Focker: Seriously? I'm not even close ot finsihing the book but am curious as to why you draw these conclusions of it. Is it laced wiith inaccuracies? Numerous inaccuracies. I probably wouldn't have noticed them if I hadn't been reading other things at the same time. The one example that I clearly remember is him mentioning Tigers in Manstein's attack... there weren't any Tigers in the south until after Stalingrad was a bad memory. Most of the things I spotted seemed to be geared toward making the Russian successes seem more spectacular (as if they didn't seem so anyway) </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazysack Posted August 30, 2003 Author Share Posted August 30, 2003 Hmmm.. thanks for the suggestions. I'm more interested in specs and diagrams than tactics, but I suppose that would be informative also.. I'd have no luck with the poster idea, I'm assuming? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 A few websites that may interest you for specs and such Achtung Panzer has details of German kit. The Russian Battlefield has details of Soviet stuff The 7th Armoured Website concentrates on the 7th Armoured Divison (obviously) but has details of weapons and tanks common to a lot of Commonwealth units. As for books the Osprey series seems to be popular with modders and model makers. Their website is: http://www.ospreypublishing.com [ August 30, 2003, 11:04 AM: Message edited by: Firefly ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 We also have a website with suggested reading material here: CMBB Bibliography pages and here: CMAK Bibliography pages Martin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Yeide Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 If you DO get interested in tactics and technical matters beyond vehicle specs, watch for "Steel Victory," due out on 2 December from Presidio Press (see e.g., Amazon.com). It is the history of the US Army's separate tank battalions in the ETO. Cheers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazysack Posted August 30, 2003 Author Share Posted August 30, 2003 Great! Thanks for the excellent links! I'll keep an eye out for those books as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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