Sitzkrieg Posted June 11, 2001 Share Posted June 11, 2001 Tried a search and didn't come up with anything similar. I had CM working fine in Win2K a couple of weeks ago. Now whenever I try to start CM it reboots my machine. This happens on two different machines: #1 Micron P3 700, 384MB RAM, Leadtek Geforce2 GTS (64MB), Win2K SP2, DirectX 8 #2 Dell P3 866, 128MB RAM, Geforce 256 (32MB), Win2K SP2, DirectX 8 Both machines are running the 6.50 Nvidia reference drivers. My only guess would be SP2 as I believe it is the only thing I have changed as of late. I tried going back to both 6.31 and 6.18 and it still reboots my machine whenever I start CM. Anyone else experiencing this? Any suggestions? BTW, #1 is a dual boot with Win98SE so all is not lost. :cool: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitzkrieg Posted June 11, 2001 Author Share Posted June 11, 2001 A couple of things I forgot: 1.) This only happens when FSAA is enabled to any degree (which is needed to clear up the text in Win2K) 2.) This is not a lockup where I have to reboot the machine, I double-click on CM with FSAA enabled and the machine reboots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrullenhaft Posted June 11, 2001 Share Posted June 11, 2001 I can't see anything in SP2 that would be specific to this sort of problem. I've run a GeForceMX card with 12.40 drivers with SP2 installed and didn't have problems with CM rebooting. Looking over your video cards I do notice that the Leadtek GeForce2 GTS has a fairly new BIOS (v. 6.2), which may affect FSAA functionality: http://www.leadtek.com.tw/old/engeforce_2_gtsDL.htm The Detonator 6.66 driver appears to be the latest offered by Leadtek for their video card (though 6.50 is most likely more stable). I'm not sure what Dell offers with their machines when it comes to GeForce cards. If the above ROM update solution actually works, then the Dell may be in a similar situation since their OEM hardware may have dated firmware. If you feel that SP2 is causing you problems you can uninstall it from the Add/Remove control panel (unless you did an Integrated install at the time you installed Win2K). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitzkrieg Posted June 11, 2001 Author Share Posted June 11, 2001 Schrullenhaft, Thanks for the info. I tried reinstalling DX 8 to see if that would take care of it with no luck. I'll look into the BIOS updates like you suggested and try both the new Leadtek drivers and/or the latest Nvidia driver. I kinda wanted to stay away from 12.* as I tried them in Win98SE and they screwed up FSAA. I wonder about the BIOS update as it was working fine before with my current video BIOS. My guess is either MS or Nvidia. Who knows? Seems running games in Windows is getting as bad, if not worse, than running games in DOS. I know SP2 SHOULDN'T have anything in it to cause a problem like this but with MS, you never know. Uninstalling is not an option as I installed SP2 with the installation. Like I said, at least I can still dual boot to Win98SE. Thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitzkrieg Posted June 11, 2001 Author Share Posted June 11, 2001 Checked out your link to Leadtek. I already have the 6.2 BIOS installed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitzkrieg Posted June 11, 2001 Author Share Posted June 11, 2001 Tried the 12.41 drivers on the Dell machine. It didn't reboot this time but the text is all screwed up, even without FSAA on, exactly as it was in Win98SE with FSAA enabled. I love it how Nvidia uses the public to test their drivers. :mad: If anything, I would like to get back to the original drivers that were installed when I installed Win2K. Any idea how to do that (if it's possible at all)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrullenhaft Posted June 11, 2001 Share Posted June 11, 2001 I'm not sure how well this will work, but you can remove your video driver by going to: Start Menu > Settings > Control Panel > System control panel > Hardare tab > Device Manager button > double-click on Display Adapters in the listing and double-click on your display adapter > Driver tab > Uninstall button. Assuming that the routines are written correctly, this should remove all the appropriate drivers and possibly the .INF files (but probably not in the case of the .INFs). I assume that a reboot will be in order after performing this. In which case you'll want the version of the driver you want to install (6.50 ?) ready to go. If it is a file that needs to be extracted, then you should do that before uninstalling the driver. You may also have to go into the Registry to eliminate NVidia oriented settings. Are you using an NVidia tweaker or additional registry settings ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcGuire Posted June 11, 2001 Share Posted June 11, 2001 Hey maybe we can get BTS to put up a separate forum for posting pleas to fix CM with nVidia cards... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitzkrieg Posted June 11, 2001 Author Share Posted June 11, 2001 FIXED!!! Found the "magic driver" that works. 7.58 WHQL. I tried that driver before in Win98 and it was pretty solid and sure enough it fixed both the rebooting and the screwed up text. I don't think BTS should have to fix anything. It is obviously Nvidia's problem. They have how many odd versions out? 6.x, 7.x, 10.x, 11.x, 12.x :confused: ! Some work great (like 7.58), others just suck. But at the same time, 7.58 might work fine for one game and not at all for another. And one version might work in one OS and not another. Nvidia's "release policy" (i.e. leaking drivers for the public to test) is evil to say the least. :mad: They make great chips but their drivers leave something to be desired. Appreciate the help, Schrullenhaft. :cool: [ 06-11-2001: Message edited by: sitzkrieg ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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