Breakthrough Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 Originally posted by tools4fools: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ozzy: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by M Hofbauer: is it Slowakei or Slowakien?? I know it is -slowakien in Tschechoslowakien, but as an individual word, it is usually Slowakei, isn't it?it's Slowakei, just as it is Tschechoslowakei, not Tschechoslowakien... </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 Originally posted by Frunze: ...aren't you Canadian, Dorosh? Isn't that in the British Commonwealth?Canada is the sad case of a country that wandered too far north and got lost in a frozen wilderness. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 I just recall asking about that last year, and the reply was that making something like Finns vs. Germans would require too much extra effort to make it in. But since then I have been absent from this forum for long. So if they have changed their minds, the happier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted August 16, 2002 Author Share Posted August 16, 2002 Originally posted by Michael emrys: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Frunze: ...aren't you Canadian, Dorosh? Isn't that in the British Commonwealth?Canada is the sad case of a country that wandered too far north and got lost in a frozen wilderness. Michael</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: I believe the term in vogue at the time was British Empire, but we had risen above our colonial status thanks to the Statute of Westminster (and Vimy Ridge)...I think UK would still be better, though, no? The United Kingdom of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales? Or somefink?I speak now not as an expert but simply because I cannot pass up an opportunity to mumble incoherently, but it seems to me that the term 'Britain' was still the term of choice within the Kingdom and the Commonwealth at the time of the war, and that in other nations it was even more common to refer to it, however improperly, as 'England'. It doesn't seem to me in my reading that the term 'United Kingdom', even though it had enjoyed some usage previously, really came to predominate until after the war. It does seem to provide some kind of psychic counter balance to the contraction and dissolution of the Empire following the war and the UK assuming its place among the United Nations. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 OK the Grogs guide . Britain - England, Scotland, Wales, i.e the big island. Great Britain - The above plus offshore islands. United Kingdom - All of the above plus Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man and the Channel Isles. British Isles (geographic term only) Britain, Ireland and all the offshore bits, including the Isle of Man, but not the Channel Isles. Confused yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted August 16, 2002 Author Share Posted August 16, 2002 So United Kingdom would obviously be the best choice here. thanks for the Grog's guide, I was too tired to look it up! Back to the Chetniks I go.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Weiss Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 Now wait a minute. I thought Churchill was always referring to it as Great Britain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted August 17, 2002 Author Share Posted August 17, 2002 Originally posted by Bruno Weiss: Now wait a minute. I thought Churchill was always referring to it as Great Britain?Only when he was drunk. So that makes the likelihood... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 The term 'British' and Britain or Great Britain are often used here, in everyday language, to mean the whole UK. A bit like referring to the USA as America, but in reverse . The BBC (not UKBC ) will often refer to the British Government or British forces. Sometimes people will say England when they mean Britain or the UK, but this is guarranteed to annoy the Scots and the Welsh. Until recently the use of 'UK' in everyday language was mainly confined to expatriates, it's become useful shorthand in the Internet age. [ August 17, 2002, 04:47 PM: Message edited by: Firefly ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bruno Weiss: Now wait a minute. I thought Churchill was always referring to it as Great Britain?Only when he was drunk. So that makes the likelihood...</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted August 18, 2002 Author Share Posted August 18, 2002 Hmmm...I'll add some related Gran Sasso stuff I just found in the Amazing Finds post of the General Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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