JAT Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 LOS is blocked from a smoke round from an arty spotter? The rounds should continue to drop in the pattern first called for by the spotter no matter if he loses LOS or falls asleep or goes to have a cup of java. How can the guns instantaneously move at the very moment LOS is lost? I've asked the question prior to giving the symptoms. When targeting from a spotter with smoke, the first rounds go in a fairly tight pattern, but once the smoke starts and that one round that blocks LOS appears, it seems like the rest of the pattern turns to wide. Am I imagining things or what? Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Manuel Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 Hmmm, I never thought of that, but my opponent is currently smoking a hilltop, and the smoke looks like the out of LOS pattern. It doesn't make sense that smoke could do that, esp. for a smoke mission. I mean the Spotter isn't giving a correction... :confused: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagdwyrm Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 I've always wondered about this. Be nice to know for sure if the smoke does affect the rest of the targetting. [ May 10, 2003, 03:14 PM: Message edited by: Jagdwyrm ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAT Posted May 10, 2003 Author Share Posted May 10, 2003 Jag, It shouldn't matter. I agree, it'd be nice to know if CM goofed on that or if there is a logical reason. The only thing I can come up with is that it is intentional and is a smoke plan. If the targeted area is already smoked to death, why continue to put more there. Maybe after a set amount of expenditure, there is a widening pattern. Do any of you arty grogs know? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishu Posted May 11, 2003 Share Posted May 11, 2003 I don't think even artillery barrage should become wide spread after the hit area is defined. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpkr Posted May 11, 2003 Share Posted May 11, 2003 Originally posted by Fishu: I don't think even artillery barrage should become wide spread after the hit area is defined. Hear, hear. Once you begin firing for effect, what the heck does LOS matter? Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAT Posted May 11, 2003 Author Share Posted May 11, 2003 Not having that much experience using smoke (2 horrendous failures) I have to admit that I am pleased that it does what it does. I'm a bit sorry that I brought up this subject. It's not logical what happens or seems to happen, but I like the affect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmatt Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 I did some tests on this just to be sure and from what I can see it's not that accuracy is diminished (which should have no effect since a FO can even DIE after the first rounds hit now) but rather a smoke pattern is a little thicker than a normal HE pattern. This is done to ensure proper coverage of the intended area and to try and guarantee full smoke coverage. I tested this by comparing the fall of HE shells and smoke shells targeted into the same area. The smoke shells all landed within the area of the HE shells (between the North and Southmost HE round impacts) but they extended about double the thickness of the East and Westernmost shells. Due to the limited duration of smoke plums I think you will want this overlap to help keep the target area covered/obscured. Madmatt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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