US Tank Destroyer Bns in ETO

[Conscript Bagger]

So as not to hijack the M10 thread, I'm putting this here.

Originally posted by CombinedArms:

I'm not sure about the historicity of mixing M10s and Hellcats. I'm sure they both were used in the antitank battalions, but whether together or not, I don't know. BTW, the tactics described above won't work for the Hellcat. Even at 1000m, that front is too porous to sustain a hit from almost anything.

Just found this info on my hard drive - I posted it here before the Great Forum Purge, etc.; maybe folks who didn't see it then will find it useful now. AARs often don't say what type of TD was in action, just the unit, and the CM-level tactics for M10s, M18s, M36s, and 76mm towed guns can be pretty different, so it's nice to know which weapon to put into a scenario.

Only one type of TD is listed for each unit, except when they converted to a new type. I imagine some of the M18/36 units were upgraded from towed 76s or M10s, but the author of this information (forgotten by me ) didn't know it.

There were fifty-two TD Bn's in the ETO on 1 January 1945:

Self-Propelled

601st (M36, also served in Tunisia, Sicily, and Italy with M3 and M10)

602nd (M18)

603rd (M18)

607th (M36)

609th (M18)

610th (M36)

611th ?????

612th (M18)

628th (M36)

629th (M10)

630th (7/44 - M18) (sometime pre-1/45 - M36)

631st (M10)

634th (M10)

635th (M10)

636th (M10, also served in Tunisia and Italy)

638th (M18)

643rd (M18)

644th (M10)

645th (M36, also served in Italy with M10)

654th (M36)

691st (M36)

701st (M10)

702nd (M36)

703rd (M36)

704th (M18)

705th (M18)

771st (M36)

773rd (M36)

774th (M36)

776th (11/42 - M10 in Tunisia and Italy) (9/44 - M36)

803rd (M36)

808th (M36)

809th (M36)

811th (M18)

813th (M36, also served in Tunisia and Sicily with M3 and M10)

814th (8/44 - M10) (11/44 - M36)

818th (M36)

821st (M10)

823rd (M10)

827th Colored (M18)

893rd (M10)

899th (M36, also served in Tunisia with M10)

Towed (changes to SP are sometime post-1/45)

614th Colored (T)

692nd (T) (?? - M10)

772nd (T)

801st (T) (?? - M18) referred to as SP 1/5/45

802nd (T) (?? - M10)

807th (T) referred to as SP 1/20 - 2/25/45

817th (T) (?? - M18) referred to as T 2/22/45

820th (T) (?? - M18)

822nd (T) (?? - M18)

824th (T) (?? - M18)

825th (T) (?? - M10)

[CombinedArms]

Thanks. This is cool info. It looks like a serious effort was being made by Jan 45 to replace the M10 with the M18 and M36. Mostly the more veteran units are getting the M36. That's what I would have wanted if I were driving one of these things...