Bulgarian Army grogs--info needed for proposed mod!

[tooz]

Hey guys, 65% of my WWII sites came off of great links from the BFC Forum. Now, I am teaming up with a modder (to be named later) in order to see if we can come up with a Bulgarian Army mod for CMBB. The first problem is those damned hard-coded helmets! Regardless, with the help of a few good links we'll try to add something to the system.

Bring 'em--please.

[J_Powell]

Bulgarian helmet = german helmet ?? Asking, couse I remember M36B model (that one was used by WWII bulg. forces?)very similar to germans "head-protectors".

[Philippe]

What are you going to do about the .wav files?

[tooz]

"What are you going to do about the .wav files?"--Phillippe

Good question. Bmps come first, then wavs. Bulgarian IS very close to Russian, however. "Blagodara" instead of "spasebo" (but "blagodaroo vas" also means thanks). Then again, the troops never say "thanks".

Bulgarian swear words grogs?

By the way Phillippe--I loved your Semitiotics mods. I especially loved your French mod for CMBO.

[Bigduke6]

In Russian:

Blagadaroo vas = I thank you

Yeah, I'd say that's pretty close to Bulgarian.

[Foreigner]

Originally posted by tooz:

Bulgarian IS very close to Russian.

Indeed it is - about 70% of the vocabulary is practically the same (though the grammar is way off). But the similarity can land one in trouble by giving a false sense of understanding everything correctly. A Bulgarian direction to go "straight ahead" (NAPRAVO) could easily send an unaware Russian to the right instead. And there are some innocent words in each language that don't sound so innocent in the other.

In fact, Bulgarian is a Southern Slavic language, together with Serbo-Croatian and Macedonian, IIRC, and therefore is much more similar to them.

I'm curious, though - which country do you want to base the new mod on? Bulgaria, like Romania, in 1944 switched allegiance from Axis to Allies. On the other hand, the Bulgarian army had almost exclusively German equipment (with some Czech thrown in for good measure), while Romania had some of its own.

Finally, AFAIK, prior to late 1944 Bulgarian ground troops were involved in the war exclusively as Axis occupational forces in parts of Greece and Yugoslavia. They saw major combat only in late 1944-early 1945 as Allied - part of the Third Ukranian Front, Yugoslavia and Hungary.

[tooz]

"I'm curious, though - which country do you want to base the new mod on?"--Foreigner

Can't use Hungarians or Finns, so the only option is to use the Allied Romanians. All of the battles depicted will be those battles of the Third Ukrainian Front. I am hoping that having Germans face troops attacking them with their own equipment may be interesting.

Hey, so far this is ONLY an idea. I did say "proposed" mod, right?

Now about those info-laden websites on Bulgaria...

[Foreigner]

Dear tooz,

I'm afraid not much comes up with Googling in English. Might try some in Bulgarian from home.

This site is a general historical overview of Bulgaria in WWII.

http://www.bulgaria.com/history/bulgaria/war2.html

The next two sites, while not in impeccable English and not big on details, nevertheless seem pretty thorough.

http://members.aol.com/bogdanovaslava/

http://members.aol.com/bogdanovaslava/BulgWW2.html

The site below is the National Military Historical Museum in Sofia, Bulgaria. Couldn't find articles on it, but the pictures could be informative.

http://www.md.government.bg/nvim/_en/index.htm

Finally, two sites that deal with limited aspects of Bulgarian WWII equipment:

One about the WWII Bulgarian airforce;

http://www.geocities.com/bulgarian_aviation/english1.htm

and one from "Achtung Panzer!", which used to have much better coverage on Bulgarian AFVs in WWII.

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/axispzs.htm

[tooz]

Foreigner--thanks! These links are just what I was looking for.

As mentioned before, this proposed mod is intended to add an interesting (I hope) novelty into CM while we await CMx2. I think seeing German AFVs in Bulgarian markings attacking Germans in battles/ops will be fun. I got this idea from playing QBs with Allied Romanians attacking Germans. Different, for sure.