Scorpion_sk Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 It´s done, after a great deal of time invested in research & implementation. I have completed my "Historical World War II scenario" about 5 minutes ago, and it´s 6 am..... Crazy I am..... Anyway, the point of the scenario is to provide a truly different type of game for SC - and it is intended for historicity freaks. The production values of the the major powers have been tweaked to the historical ratios of the production capabilities. This means that the US will be much stronger, as is Germany at the start, while Italy and and France have been toned down. This has been accomplished by tweaking with the ownership of the provinces (ie. Germany starts with the west coast french cities and the Italian colonial holdings, while the U.S. has some areas of the Caucasus and Sweden (Sweden being intended to remain "neutral and be left in peace for the war)) These provinces are intended to be left untouched by all other powers, with the exception of the Italian-German hexes, which the allies can take. The OOBs are tweaked to bring the forces to as close as the historical OOBs. Also, the germans start with 1 exp each. You will find that the sea is packed with naval units now, since the U.S. and U.K. navies are represented in full. The game is designed to be played so that only bomber units (including all bombers) should be able to attack ground units. If you disagree, it will still work out, but the air force ratios will be off. Of course, this scenario can only be played against a human. I realize that this scenario will be wacky indeed for all you more conservative SC players, but that´s ok.... I created the scenario mostly out of interest to study, and for my own fun. Still, if someone would like to host it, drop me a line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hueristic Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 Sounds insane. I'll try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion_sk Posted December 21, 2002 Author Share Posted December 21, 2002 Additionally, the U.S.S.R start as active, and are not to engage in hostilities until the fall of France and Summer 1942, respectively More insanity I know, but the only way to correct the Italian OOB and to help out the (weakened) Soviets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJohn Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 Scorpion_SK Hope it turns out great. The house rules would drive me nuts -- I see something open I reflexively invade it, so this wouldn't be something I could handle. But I admire your moxie! The various explanations lost me about six times, but what I managed to comprehend sounds like fun! --- * --- Speaking of which, a few words from Comrade Merriment himself "Yes I would give part of Caucasus to America. In exchange they return Alaska and California and -- I will compile a list. Send in Scorpion with my directory of choice gulags. This Scorpion fellow, a little like Trotsky, don't you agree? Is unanimous then!" Image lifted from a posting by my friend Carl von Mannerheim, who taught me how to do this stuff. [ December 21, 2002, 08:30 AM: Message edited by: JerseyJohn ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzgndr Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 This has been accomplished by tweaking with the ownership of the provinces (ie. Germany starts with the west coast french cities and the Italian colonial holdings, while the U.S. has some areas of the Caucasus and Sweden (Sweden being intended to remain "neutral and be left in peace for the war)) This is a novel idea! How about starting Iraq under US control and the Swedish mines under German control? That would make for less "house-rules" to avoid certain provinces and still provide a historic effect. Where is your mod? You should send it to Otto for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayJay_H Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 Yes, would like to try it out, availability? [ December 21, 2002, 12:41 PM: Message edited by: JayJay_H ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayJay_H Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 Originally posted by JerseyJohn: "Yes I would give part of Caucasus to America. In exchange they return Alaska and California and -- I will compile a list. Send in Scorpion with my directory of choice gulags. This Scorpion fellow, a little like Trotsky, don't you agree? Is unanimous then!" *LMAO* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJohn Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 JayJay_H Glad you enjoyed it. The opportunity couldn't be passed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzgndr Posted December 22, 2002 Share Posted December 22, 2002 How about starting Iraq under US control and the Swedish mines under German control? FWIW, I tried this today and it doesn't work unless you activate the neutral countries. But that may be OK. Make Sweden "Surrendered to Axis" under German control, to provide occupied resources at 80% value and no plunder for either Germany or later Allied conquest. Make Iraq "Joined Allies" under US control, to provide those resources at 100% value after US enters. In my Campaign mods, I kept things balanced for both sides so they can still be used with human opponents. For solo games however, the AI still has its limitations and requires you to play on higher game settings for a challenging game. But the ideas above and similar ideas could be used to further mod the game and create separate Axis and Allied scenarios. It's an interesting concept. I'm curious to hear how scorpion's scenario plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Posted December 22, 2002 Share Posted December 22, 2002 Scorpion, that sounds like a good one. I'll gladly host it for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konstantin V. Kotelnikov Posted December 22, 2002 Share Posted December 22, 2002 Originally posted by JerseyJohn: A most glorious picture of Comrade Stalin! This is the same glorious picture we have used on glorious "information" leaflets we hand out to our brave and glorious soldiers. -dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJohn Posted December 22, 2002 Share Posted December 22, 2002 Konstatin V. Kotelnikov Yes, a most inspiring pose. I swiped it out of another forum from Carl von Mannerheim. Bet those leaflets are a great motivator! [ December 22, 2002, 12:51 AM: Message edited by: JerseyJohn ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konstantin V. Kotelnikov Posted December 22, 2002 Share Posted December 22, 2002 Originally posted by JerseyJohn: Konstatin V. Kotelnikov Bet those leaflets are a great motivator!For the literate soldiers they seem to do the trick. For the others I have a 1938 Tula built M95 Nagant 7.62mm Revolver that seems to provide the "motivation" they need. -dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Trapp Posted December 22, 2002 Share Posted December 22, 2002 Can't blame you for that....the motherland has to survive somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konstantin V. Kotelnikov Posted December 22, 2002 Share Posted December 22, 2002 Originally posted by Comrade Trapp: Can't blame you for that....the motherland has to survive somehow.My webhost won't allow me to bring pictures over but here is a link to a site I like to call. A Soviet Politruk's Motivational Tools. http://www.geocities.com/sixth_tennessee/Pictures.html Later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Scorpion_sk, I have to agree with Otto et all and say that this sounds like an interesting campaign, hopefully we'll see this one posted at the SCHQ soon! Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion_sk Posted December 26, 2002 Author Share Posted December 26, 2002 Sorry all, left for "home" for Christmas and but am back now. I´ll email it to Otto. I´m very glad and surprised that my little bit of madness interests some people. Perhaps I´ll work out some kind of a readme file for the thing before I send it..... Anyways, I noticed that I said that the U.S.S.R starts as active, but somehow forgot to type that Italy starts as active too (and should not engage in hostilities until just before the fall of France), or 1941, whichever comes first.... Right then....off to work one last time then, I think..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion_sk Posted December 27, 2002 Author Share Posted December 27, 2002 It should be available at Otto´s now. Have a blast. I´ve given everything I can to SC, now I´ll try my hand with the much more detailed world of HoI modding..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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