Belfast not a port?

[gdpsnake]

I think Belfast should be a port as well. It's impossible to leave Ireland if you invade and conquor. All the units used are stuck. Shouldn't Algeria have a port? And a port on the Western side of Africa?

[Esquire]

I am with you on this one.

[John DiFool]

Originally posted by gdpsnake:

I think Belfast should be a port as well. It's impossible to leave Ireland if you invade and conquor. All the units used are stuck. Shouldn't Algeria have a port? And a port on the Western side of Africa?

The Belfast thing is to dissuade the British

player from (ahistorically) taking Ireland (since

you can't get them off again). This can be

gotten around if you have enough other assets

(fire support ships, planes, rockets) to pound

the Belfast corps into dust, and then just move

in one corps of your own to take it.

But there are some other anomalies. The most

problematic one is having Tobruk as the Italian's

Libyan port, and not Tripoli, when the latter

handled most of the offloading of supplies. This

is a big problem for the Axis in the 1941

Scenario, since the British hold Tobruk and

Rommel & co. have little prayer of taking it with

the forces at their disposal. But this also

means that the Axis can't ship their two Hqs and

Panzer army to the continent! [where they might

be of some use] Your only other option is to

take Vichy out, since Algeria DOES have a port.

John DiFool

[Desert Dave]

As originally posted by John DiFool:

But there are some other anomalies. The most

problematic one is having Tobruk as the Italian's

Libyan port, and not Tripoli, when the latter

handled most of the offloading of supplies. This

is a big problem for the Axis in the 1941

Scenario, since the British hold Tobruk and

Rommel & co. have little prayer of taking it with

the forces at their disposal.

I certainly agree. Perhaps the idea was to make it harder to reinforce North Afrika, since you have to go the longer way around (... that Air Fleet at Malta, without HQ, is no real hindrance to supply efforts)and are more liable to be interdicted by Royal Navy.

But, the end result of making Tobruk the only port (instead of the more easily defended short route to Tripoli), is to make it even LESS LIKELY that the Axis player will show any sustained interest in North Afrika.

The very few MPPs gained was reason enough not to bother with the area in the first place, but seems like we should have more incentives, not less?

Now, I realize that many will argue that -- on the scale of SC, North Afrika was a sort of romantic sideshow, but I would like to see any changes that would bring the whole southern map more into play.

[Willard]

I think Belfast needs a port.

That way as Axis, I can ship arms to supply my oppressed brethren in the north and repel the English occupying forces in Northern Ireland!

[ August 26, 2002, 11:31 AM: Message edited by: Willard ]

[gdpsnake]

Sorry, didn't mean Algeria, I meant Syria/Lebannon