shootdodge Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 well its like this. i like to play on the offensive and those towed guns just cant keep pace with my armor and i would tow then on the armor or trucks but by the time their unpacked the fights over and if they see infantry the load the shorts and abandon their gun even veterans so has anybody had anny sucsess with towed guns on the offensive if so then tell me how i would do a search but that feature doesnt work on my machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priest Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 It is a very careful art to be able to use towed guns on the offensive. There are basically two ways to do this. 1.) find a sweet spot on setup and use them as overwatch fire from rear areas. 2.) Use transport to manuever the guns behind wood outcroppings that block LOS with the enemy. Then disembark the units and have them march across the wooded area. Now the skill part, you have to estimate when they will become in visual contact with forces on the other side and set your end waypoint there with an ajoined hide command. Usually any enemy force will not have time to notice the gun as it ducks just as it comes into view. Even if they see it they can rarely fire at it and usually just get a "marker" at best. Then when you are ready unhide the crew and go to work. I just did tactic #2 with two 105mm Howitzers and someone just did it to me with the big German Infantry gun! Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Eyes Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 Priest has a couple of good suggestions. Number 2 requires patience and time, if you have them. Another use for guns is to move them to positions out of enemy LOS and create fire lanes that limit your opponent's maneuverability and/or ability to reinforce the objective area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priest Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 Snake Eyes I forgot about that one. You are correct that guns can limit space and even act as the flank guard are mighty handy indeed. I not sure which German high commander said this (pretty sure it was Guderian) "Panzer Armies need space!" You can use towed guns to take this needed space away! [ 08-08-2001: Message edited by: Priest ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Eyes Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Priest: ...You can use towed guns to take this needed space away!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> You can also use towed guns to expand your space. They don't have to have targets when they unload. Their presence can claim an area, protecting your maneuvering units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 Well as you may know, Mr. 1337 is no longer with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priest Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 You try and you try...oh it has already been said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Eyes Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 There are three things you shouldn't do: - spit into the wind - tug on Superman's cape - mess with Madmatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpkr Posted August 10, 2001 Share Posted August 10, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snake Eyes: There are three things you shouldn't do: - spit into the wind - tug on Superman's cape - mess with Madmatt<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> What about pulling off the mask of the old Lone Ranger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olandt Posted August 11, 2001 Share Posted August 11, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MrSpkr: What about pulling off the mask of the old Lone Ranger?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> You really think you could actually be quick enough to pull the mask off????? Man, you'ld have a Z'ed out shirt the minute you even thought about it. And you shouldn't pull on Mighty Mouse's cape. Who cares about some dweeb like superman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subvet Posted August 11, 2001 Share Posted August 11, 2001 Uptown got it's hustlers The Bowery got it's bums And 42nd street got big Jim Walker He's a pool shootin' son of a gun Ya, he's big and dumb as a man can come But stronger than a country hoss And when the bad folks all get together at night You know they all call big Jim boss And they say, `You don't tug on Supermans' cape You don't spit into the wind You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger And you don't mess around with Jim' Da, do, da, do... Well out of south Alabama come a country boy He said, `Looking for a man named Jim I am a pool shootin' boy, my name is Will Macoy But down home they call me Slim And I'm looking for the king of 42nd street He's driving a drop top Cadillac Last week he took all my money, and it may sound funny But I've come to get my money back' And everybody say Jack, `You don't tug on Supermans' cape You don't spit into the wind You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger And you don't mess around with Jim' Da, do, da, do... Well a hush fell over the pool room When Jim he come boppin' off the street And when the cuttin' was done The only part that wasn't bloody was the soles of the big man's feet And he was cut in 'bout a hundred places And he was shot in a couple more And you better believe the song took on a different story When big Jim hit the floor You don't tug on Supermans' cape You don't spit into the wind You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger And you don't mess around with Slim Da, do, da, do... You don't tug on Supermans' cape You don't spit into the wind You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger And you don't mess around with Slim Da, do, da, do... Ya, big Jim got his hat Find out where it's at And not hustling people strange to you Even if you got a two piece custom made pool cue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Panzer Posted August 11, 2001 Share Posted August 11, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>You really think you could actually be quick enough to pull the mask off????? Man, you'ld have a Z'ed out shirt the minute you even thought about it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ...well now olandt, what a truely unrighteous fellow you turned out to be. confusing the lone ranger with zorro? tsk, tsk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpkr Posted August 11, 2001 Share Posted August 11, 2001 Actually I prefered this one: 'Well the South side of Chicago Is the baddest part of town And if you go down there You better just beware Of a man named Leroy Brown Now Leroy, more than trouble You see he stands about six foot-four All the downtown ladies call him "Treetop Lover" All the men just call him "Sir" And he's bad, bad, Leroy Brown The baddest man in the whole damned town Badder than old King Kong And meaner than a junkyard dog Now Leroy, he's a gambler And he like his fancy clothes And he like to wave his diamond rings In front of everybody's nose He got a custom Continental He got an El Dorado too He got a thirty-two gun in his pocket full of fun He got a razor in his shoe And he's bad, bad, Leroy Brown The baddest man in the whole damned town Badder than old King Kong And meaner than a junkyard dog Now Friday 'bout a week ago Leroy, shootin' dice And at the edge of the bar Sat a girl named Doris And oo that girl looked nice Well he cast his eyes upon her And the trouble soon began Then Leroy Brown, he learned a lesson 'Bout a' messin' with the wife of a jealous man And he's bad, bad, Leroy Brown The baddest man in the whole damned town Badder than old King Kong And meaner than a junkyard dog Well, the two men took to fighting And when they pulled them off the floor Leroy looked like a jigsaw puzzle With a couple of pieces gone And he's bad, bad, Leroy Brown The baddest man in the whole damned town Badder than old King Kong And meaner than a junkyard dog Yeah, he's badder than old King Kong And meaner than a junkyard dog.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipper Posted August 11, 2001 Share Posted August 11, 2001 Fighting for US, I often use M3 Armored Car + 76mm AT gun for exactly that purpose. The M3 (150 rounds of .50cal, fast and skin thick enough to stop an MG42 bullet) is great for flanking and wreaking havoc in the rear, too. Just keep it out of trouble until endspiel. In ME I also normally load an HMG on it to get to a nice large heavy building somewhere in the middle of the map. If enemy chooses "rush to the objectives" debut, that's his greeting party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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