offensive rolls for towed guns

[shootdodge]

well its like this. i like to play on the offensive and those towed guns just cant keep pace with my armor and i would tow then on the armor or trucks but by the time their unpacked the fights over and if they see infantry the load the shorts and abandon their gun even veterans so has anybody had anny sucsess with towed guns on the offensive if so then tell me how i would do a search but that feature doesnt work on my machine

[Priest]

It is a very careful art to be able to use towed guns on the offensive. There are basically two ways to do this.

1.) find a sweet spot on setup and use them as overwatch fire from rear areas.

2.) Use transport to manuever the guns behind wood outcroppings that block LOS with the enemy. Then disembark the units and have them march across the wooded area. Now the skill part, you have to estimate when they will become in visual contact with forces on the other side and set your end waypoint there with an ajoined hide command. Usually any enemy force will not have time to notice the gun as it ducks just as it comes into view. Even if they see it they can rarely fire at it and usually just get a "marker" at best. Then when you are ready unhide the crew and go to work.

I just did tactic #2 with two 105mm Howitzers and someone just did it to me with the big German Infantry gun!

Hope this helps

[Snake Eyes]

Priest has a couple of good suggestions. Number 2 requires patience and time, if you have them. Another use for guns is to move them to positions out of enemy LOS and create fire lanes that limit your opponent's maneuverability and/or ability to reinforce the objective area.

[Priest]

Snake Eyes I forgot about that one. You are correct that guns can limit space and even act as the flank guard are mighty handy indeed. I not sure which German high commander said this (pretty sure it was Guderian) "Panzer Armies need space!"

You can use towed guns to take this needed space away!

[ 08-08-2001: Message edited by: Priest ]

[Snake Eyes]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Priest:

...You can use towed guns to take this needed space away!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can also use towed guns to expand your space. They don't have to have targets when they unload. Their presence can claim an area, protecting your maneuvering units.

[Maximus]

Well as you may know, Mr. 1337 is no longer with us.

[Priest]

You try and you try...oh it has already been said

[Snake Eyes]

There are three things you shouldn't do:

- spit into the wind

- tug on Superman's cape

- mess with Madmatt

[MrSpkr]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snake Eyes:

There are three things you shouldn't do:

- spit into the wind

- tug on Superman's cape

- mess with Madmatt<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What about pulling off the mask of the old Lone Ranger?

[olandt]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MrSpkr:

What about pulling off the mask of the old Lone Ranger?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You really think you could actually be quick enough to pull the mask off????? Man, you'ld have a Z'ed out shirt the minute you even thought about it.

And you shouldn't pull on Mighty Mouse's cape. Who cares about some dweeb like superman?

[Subvet]

Uptown got it's hustlers

The Bowery got it's bums

And 42nd street got big Jim Walker

He's a pool shootin' son of a gun

Ya, he's big and dumb as a man can come

But stronger than a country hoss

And when the bad folks all get together at night

You know they all call big Jim boss

And they say, `You don't tug on Supermans' cape

You don't spit into the wind

You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger

And you don't mess around with Jim' Da, do, da, do...

Well out of south Alabama come a country boy

He said, `Looking for a man named Jim

I am a pool shootin' boy, my name is Will Macoy

But down home they call me Slim

And I'm looking for the king of 42nd street

He's driving a drop top Cadillac

Last week he took all my money, and it may sound funny

But I've come to get my money back'

And everybody say Jack, `You don't tug on Supermans' cape

You don't spit into the wind

You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger

And you don't mess around with Jim' Da, do, da, do...

Well a hush fell over the pool room

When Jim he come boppin' off the street

And when the cuttin' was done

The only part that wasn't bloody was the soles of the big man's feet

And he was cut in 'bout a hundred places

And he was shot in a couple more

And you better believe the song took on a different story

When big Jim hit the floor

You don't tug on Supermans' cape

You don't spit into the wind

You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger

And you don't mess around with Slim Da, do, da, do...

You don't tug on Supermans' cape

You don't spit into the wind

You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger

And you don't mess around with Slim Da, do, da, do...

Ya, big Jim got his hat

Find out where it's at

And not hustling people strange to you

Even if you got a two piece custom made pool cue

[Peter Panzer]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>You really think you could actually be quick enough to pull the mask off????? Man, you'ld have a Z'ed out shirt the minute you even thought about it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

...well now olandt, what a truely unrighteous fellow you turned out to be. confusing the lone ranger with zorro? tsk, tsk...

[MrSpkr]

Actually I prefered this one:

'Well the South side of Chicago

Is the baddest part of town

And if you go down there

You better just beware

Of a man named Leroy Brown

Now Leroy, more than trouble

You see he stands about six foot-four

All the downtown ladies call him "Treetop Lover"

All the men just call him "Sir"

And he's bad, bad, Leroy Brown

The baddest man in the whole damned town

Badder than old King Kong

And meaner than a junkyard dog

Now Leroy, he's a gambler

And he like his fancy clothes

And he like to wave his diamond rings

In front of everybody's nose

He got a custom Continental

He got an El Dorado too

He got a thirty-two gun in his pocket full of fun

He got a razor in his shoe

And he's bad, bad, Leroy Brown

The baddest man in the whole damned town

Badder than old King Kong

And meaner than a junkyard dog

Now Friday 'bout a week ago

Leroy, shootin' dice

And at the edge of the bar

Sat a girl named Doris

And oo that girl looked nice

Well he cast his eyes upon her

And the trouble soon began

Then Leroy Brown, he learned a lesson

'Bout a' messin' with the wife of a jealous man

And he's bad, bad, Leroy Brown

The baddest man in the whole damned town

Badder than old King Kong

And meaner than a junkyard dog

Well, the two men took to fighting

And when they pulled them off the floor

Leroy looked like a jigsaw puzzle

With a couple of pieces gone

And he's bad, bad, Leroy Brown

The baddest man in the whole damned town

Badder than old King Kong

And meaner than a junkyard dog

Yeah, he's badder than old King Kong

And meaner than a junkyard dog.'

[Skipper]

Fighting for US, I often use M3 Armored Car + 76mm AT gun for exactly that purpose. The M3 (150 rounds of .50cal, fast and skin thick enough to stop an MG42 bullet) is great for flanking and wreaking havoc in the rear, too. Just keep it out of trouble until endspiel.

In ME I also normally load an HMG on it to get to a nice large heavy building somewhere in the middle of the map. If enemy chooses "rush to the objectives" debut, that's his greeting party.