Publius Cornelius Patton Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 I've recently been doing a paper on the Punic Wars, and an idea for a CMAK scenario came into my head- what if Patton was able to face his archrival Rommel in a battle in N. Africa, and not only that, but one non other than the same battlefield where Publius Cornelius Scipio "Africanus" defeated Hannibal- the plain of Zama? Personally, I think that a man like Patton would jump at such a chance. So, the scenario I'm planning to make (if I get CMAK) is basically an armored/mechainized showdown between the two generals on the plain of Zama. the best map of Zama I could find on the 'Net is here. How could I convert this into a CM map (how do I meaure the elevations?) What kinds of units would I use for each side? (if I make it, I hope to keep it balanced) Also, I hope to have Patton and Rommel "personally" there, as Elite units in tanks. What kind of tanks do you think the two generals would use as they personally led their troops into battle. I look forward to your advice. God bless, Publius Cornelius Patton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlichtingen Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 Originally posted by Publius Cornelius Patton: ...if Patton was able to face his archrival Rommel...Err... how can Rommel be his archrival if the two men never met in battle? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publius Cornelius Patton Posted November 28, 2003 Author Share Posted November 28, 2003 Originally posted by Berlichtingen: Err... how can Rommel be his archrival if the two men never met in battle? Well, Patton though Rommel was his rival. God bless, Publius Cornelius Patton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 Originally posted by Publius Cornelius Patton: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Berlichtingen: Err... how can Rommel be his archrival if the two men never met in battle? Well, Patton though Rommel was his rival. God bless, Publius Cornelius Patton </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlichtingen Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 Originally posted by Publius Cornelius Patton: Well, Patton though Rommel was his rival. But Patton was a certifiable lunatic, so does that really count 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 Originally posted by Berlichtingen: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Publius Cornelius Patton: Well, Patton though Rommel was his rival. But Patton was a certifiable lunatic, so does that really count </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlichtingen Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: Patton was not a lunatic but a prima donna with delusions of grandeur. Get it right. Ok, Getting it right... Patton was a lunatic with delusions and a prima donna. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DECIUS Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 The best description of Rommel and Patton is that they were both professional combat commanders. IMHO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Ahh but you see it's very difficult to appear like we know what we're talking about unless we can put our energies into deconstructing their personalities... Los [ December 02, 2003, 12:28 PM: Message edited by: Los ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlichtingen Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Also, it is near impossible to see Patton (or Monty) as professional after reading about Sicily. Spoiled children sounds like a better description 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugfromthearth Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 At Zama, Hannibal formed a line of veteran mercenaries backed by an unreliable line of Carthaginian conscripts. He had some light cavalry. Scipio had fewer infantry but many more cavalry so he used light cavalry to extend his right flank to match his opponent. This cavalry was African tribal cavalry. Could be done giving Rommel a solid line of Germans backed by an unreliable line of Italians. Patton would have more armor, which would compose most of his right flank. To make it allies, make it British armor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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