Iron Duke Posted October 19, 2000 Share Posted October 19, 2000 I wouldn't mind seeing the 10th Mountain Division's troops added in, but I guess they would fall into the "specialist" groups. My Uncle was in the 10th Mountain, BAR gunner. I'll get a picture of his old ass and we can model him in! ------------------ One shot...One Kill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamstersss Posted October 19, 2000 Author Share Posted October 19, 2000 Oh, the 10th'll be there for the Italian campaign (CM3, right?). Right, BTS? Right! ------------------ Did someone compare this to the Ealing comedies? I've shot people for less. -David Edelstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffRaider Posted October 19, 2000 Share Posted October 19, 2000 What, exactly, is so horrible about having some special unit types in? I mean, they add so much, and detract so litte. I loved playing around with Rangers and Commandos in Steel Panthers. What I liked even more about Steel Panthers was that you could edit the squad's armament and names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen. Sosaboski Posted October 19, 2000 Share Posted October 19, 2000 Commandos! I want my Royal Marine Commandos, and the Commando Francais (Ouistream)! I look forward to the 1st SSF and 10th Mtn for Italy. British Glider Pilots! They had an entire regiment, and were formed into squads once on the ground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Germanboy Posted October 19, 2000 Share Posted October 19, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JeffRaider: What, exactly, is so horrible about having some special unit types in? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Well I guess what could be a problem aer QBs in which you suddenly only encounter Rangers/Commandos if they are better equipped. Bit like the German players using a lot of FJs and GJs. But other than that... ------------------ Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen. Sosaboski Posted October 19, 2000 Share Posted October 19, 2000 Oh yes, Rangers needed too. . I would like to see a battle, actually, between Commandos and GJs. Two light infantry units up against each other. No vehicles or support weapons (except for mortars limit-3 inch). I think it'd be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamstersss Posted October 19, 2000 Author Share Posted October 19, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Germanboy: Well I guess what could be a problem aer QBs in which you suddenly only encounter Rangers/Commandos if they are better equipped. Bit like the German players using a lot of FJs and GJs. But other than that... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Yes but those people are prats and will always make stupid prattish decisions. For the rest of us, the option should be there, it'd make the game more fun. Ha HA, take that BTS! More work for you! Yahahahaha! And while you're at it, model the bovine MG42 sponge! Is prattish a word? Doesn't matter, the argument still works. Disclaimer: I love Charles and Steve, these guys are, quite possibly, the closest things to the embodied spirit of early computer/board/RPG gaming. I demand they work 23 hours a day so that they can revolutionize other fields. Afterward, they will be deified and will reside somewhere beautiful (Buenos Ares is good, I hear) as god-kings. ------------------ Did someone compare this to the Ealing comedies? I've shot people for less. -David Edelstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Time Software Posted October 20, 2000 Share Posted October 20, 2000 Folks... We have to draw the line somewhere. We decided to NOT include "special forces" that were of less than divisional organization. That excludes Rangers, Commandos, and God only knows how many oddball German formations If there were dozens of these sub-divisional units fighting, that would be different. But... Jeff wrote: Here is a link that goes into some Ranger unit histories during WW2. Hopefully BTS will come to the conclusion that the Rangers fought in significant, if not huge numbers throughour the campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamstersss Posted October 20, 2000 Author Share Posted October 20, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Big Time Software: As we have said many times over, CM is designed to simulate the bulk of combat on the Western Front. Not all of it Steve<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Keep working at it Steve, when you get all of it, we promise to elevate you to God-King status. I mean, come on, who doesn't want a big temple built in their name? ------------------ Did someone compare this to the Ealing comedies? I've shot people for less. -David Edelstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mch Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 Funny, I remember bringing this one up awhile back. I don't really see much difference between ranger and airborne squads, so substitution should suit the designer well. Armoured infantry(US) on the other hand,...... Well, there IS something to that. The AInf Bn was closer to the '45 pattern (2 BAR,2(or 3).45 SMG)in '44 than the standard '44 Inf pattern. I always wondered why they weren't included........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen. Sosaboski Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 *Sniff, sniff* WAAHH! Ok, alright. You've done enough, but I'd still appreciate to see some sort of special unit in a later CM. If not, at least promise me you'll put the AVG (Original Flying Tigers) in WHistling Death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Heidman Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Big Time Software: Folks... We have to draw the line somewhere. We decided to NOT include "special forces" that were of less than divisional organization. That excludes Rangers, Commandos, and God only knows how many oddball German formations If there were dozens of these sub-divisional units fighting, that would be different. But... Steve<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Sounds reasonable. I think it is unfortunate, but I guess you gotta draw the line at some point, and less than divisional size seems reasonable. Still would like to see US Armored Infantry units (not just squads), and some SMG-type squads, to represent the fact that the actual equipment of a US line unit was often very different from its TO&E. Jeff Heidman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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