mg Posted October 4, 2000 Share Posted October 4, 2000 Im looking for some information about Vasiliy Zaitsev & Heinz Thorwald (spelling?)and world war 2 snipers in general. Does anyone know any good sources? It has to be historical facts (my searches keep coming up with the Enemy at the gates-movie) Thanks for any help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chupacabra Posted October 4, 2000 Share Posted October 4, 2000 Check both Anthony Beevor's 'Stalingrad' and John Keegan's 'World War Two.' Neither has a lot of information on Zaitsev per se, but both devote a few pages to the Soviet concept of 'sniperism.' As for Thorvald, I'm not sure if he actually existed. I think he may have been an invention of 'The War of the Rats' author. ------------------ Soy super bien, soy super super bien, soy bien bien super bien bien bien super super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triggerhappy Posted October 4, 2000 Share Posted October 4, 2000 Just did a search on www.alltheweb.com for "Heinz Thorwald" and came up with that site: http://users.pandora.be/stalingrad/snipers.html . It's only the first hit of the search engine, there are many more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michlos Posted October 4, 2000 Share Posted October 4, 2000 Interesting enough there are different ideas on the sniper duel in Stalingrad. While some sources claims that it was fought between Vassili Zaitzev and SS Colonel Heinz Thorwald while others says that it was not Thorwald but infact Major Koenig, commander of the Heer sniping school at Zossen. Apparently Zaitzev once commented on the incident and mentioned that the killed sniper infact was the commander of the sniping school, which as far as i know Thorwald never was. Then of course there are some sources that state that this duel actually never took place. I guess it will be very hard to figure out what REALLY happened. ------------------ < All gave some, some gave ALL> Owner of MiNa's CMBO Page http://www.combat-mission.com [This message has been edited by Michlos (edited 10-04-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcursor Posted October 4, 2000 Share Posted October 4, 2000 However, the book "Enemy at the Gates" is pretty good. I just finished "War of the Rats" a few weeks ago. I'd like to find out more of what actually went on. Think I'll check out Triggerhappy's link. ------------------ "Both sides agree not to bomb civilians" - Washington Post, Sept 3, 1939 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Silesian-jaeger Posted October 4, 2000 Share Posted October 4, 2000 I too would recommend "Enemy at the Gates." I just picked up a copy on Ebay for not too much. I read somewhere that Zaitsev did kill a top German sniper, but his name was not Thorvald. Sorry can't help more. ------------------ "In one (German) town, Private Honey stood next to an elderly German man and a ten-year-old boy. As the Shermans and brand-new Pershings rumbled by the boy said,'Deutsches Panzer lind besser.' Honey looked down at him and asked,'If German tanks are better, why aren't they here?' " quote from Stephen E. Ambrose, "Citizen Soldiers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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