Shadow 1st Hussars Posted December 26, 2000 Share Posted December 26, 2000 Why have all Churchill tanks, excluding the Churchill croc, been removed from the Canadian Tank inventory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted December 26, 2000 Share Posted December 26, 2000 I haven't got around to installing b24 but I'm interested in hearing an answer to this! ------------------ And if we abandon any platform, I can assure you it will not be the Macintosh. -Steve My website! A major source of Wild Bill scenarios! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Germanboy Posted December 26, 2000 Share Posted December 26, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadow 1st Hussars: Why have all Churchill tanks, excluding the Churchill croc, been removed from the Canadian Tank inventory? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Because they never had any in real life? That is at least what this website suggests: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8418/21agt-2.htm Does anybody have info to the contrary? You can still realistically mix & match, because the UK Tank Brigades with Churchills were used to support the Corps with Canadian divisions quite often. ------------------ Andreas <a href="http://www.geocities.com/greg_mudry/sturm.html">Der Kessel</a > Home of „Die Sturmgruppe“; Scenario Design Group for Combat Mission. [This message has been edited by Germanboy (edited 12-26-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted December 26, 2000 Share Posted December 26, 2000 The Canadian and Polish have also lost the Firefly IIc and Sherman III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonm Posted December 27, 2000 Share Posted December 27, 2000 Given that the Canadians had Churchills when they were creamed at Dieppe (good old Winston - sending dominion troops in instead of Tommies), I would have thought they would still have them in '44. ------------------ Regards, Mark:-{) Anxiously awaiting the G4 PowerBook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 1st Hussars Posted December 27, 2000 Author Share Posted December 27, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gibsonm: Given that the Canadians had Churchills when they were creamed at Dieppe (good old Winston - sending dominion troops in instead of Tommies), I would have thought they would still have them in '44. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Don't even think about blaming Dieppe on the Canadians....I'll turn it right back around at the Brits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Babra Posted December 27, 2000 Share Posted December 27, 2000 Originally it was intended that Army Tank Brigades would field the Churchill while the Armoured Regiments fielded the Ram. Even prior to Dieppe it was decided that Churchills would be replaced by Rams or Shermans in the Tank Brigades. British Churchills were frequently used to support the Canadians in '44, however. This can still be accomplished in CM by choosing your tanks under "British" and infantry under "Canadian". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Tom Posted December 27, 2000 Share Posted December 27, 2000 Yeah, I can't find any reference to Canadians using Infantry tanks after 1942. We had some independent Armoured Brigades, but, no independent Tank Brigades. Seeing as Canadian and British forces constantly intermingled the attaching of a British Tank Battalion would not be out of the question for a Canadian Infantry group. Regarding Dieppe, it is a poor commander who blames his failures on his troops. There were many factors to why Dieppe failed, place a crack US Marine force in the place of the 2nd Canadian Division and they will suffer the same losses and failure. The troops were fine, the plan was flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Germanboy Posted December 27, 2000 Share Posted December 27, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gibsonm: good old Winston - sending dominion troops in instead of Tommies<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Hmm, the Canucks getting all upset again... I actually read this as 'Good old Winston (insert sarcasm here), sending dominion troops instead of Tommies out to get slaughtered on a sure-fire loser' (how fast can you say 'Gallipolli'?) which would also be a bit unfair on him, since the 2nd Canadian Infantry was apparently tearing at the leash to get some action (well, their officers were). ------------------ Andreas <a href="http://www.geocities.com/greg_mudry/sturm.html">Der Kessel</a > Home of „Die Sturmgruppe“; Scenario Design Group for Combat Mission. [This message has been edited by Germanboy (edited 12-27-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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