Private Ryan Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 Just wondering- What is the max. effective range of a Pershing say against the front hull or turret of a King Tiger or even a Jagdtiger? Thanks for the input! Pvt. Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 Hmm, difficult question... What do you mean by effective? Don't laugh, it's a serious question. A Pershing can just about kill a KT from any range if it hits a weak spot. It can certainly kill it if firing from within 100 metres. From about 500 metres or so it's a pretty safe bet..If I was you I'd get within 500 metres of any of those heavy tanks just to be sure. A 90mm gun is no guarantee of a kill PLUS you have to hit to kill and at low ranges like 500 metres the chances of hitting are much higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Time Software Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 Here's a graph of the Pershing's 90mm gun versus a King Tiger using its standard armor-piercing ammo. Note that it's almost totally ineffective from the front (barring a fluke "critical hit", which can indeed kill the KT but is not depicted in the graph). The tungsten-core ammo occasionally carried by the Pershing would do a bit better, but this ammo was almost never supplied in ample quantity. The Pershing was a very good tank, but it's important to remember that it was roughly in a class with the Panther (a "heavy medium") not the King Tiger, which is a true heavy tank. Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babra Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 I just love graphs. This one raises an A/I question in my mind though. Let's imagine a fairly large engagement with lots of armour on both sides. Will my A/I Amis choose a target at longer range, laterally across the battlefield for the flank shot, rather than a closer frontal shot? Will my guys mutually support each other, or is it always a sauve-qui-peut situation? ------------------ Floreat Jerboa ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 Charles, WOW! That is some graph you have there. Nice one. I always thought I was the only wierdo who liked to analyse the bejeezus out of my penetration chances (I did all the graphs and analysis and stuff for the CC3 strat. guide and for CC2) Is the graph available or in the manual perhaps? Thanks, Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guachi Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 I believe there will be a utility available in the game to do this yourself. Pick the gun type from column 'A' and the target vehicle from column 'B' and, presto, instant penetration chart. If you notice the chart is reallly a 90mm gun versus a King Tiger so the chart would would equally well simulating the Jackson TD which also mounted a 90mm gun, I think. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babra Posted February 23, 2000 Share Posted February 23, 2000 So will my units support each other or is everyone only concerned with themselves? Not a hard question really.... ------------------ Floreat Jerboa ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babra Posted February 23, 2000 Share Posted February 23, 2000 Yes? No? Maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted February 24, 2000 Share Posted February 24, 2000 From what I have read from STeve - the AI is certainly heading that way ------------------ CCJ aka BLITZ_Force My Hompage ----> http://www.geocities.com/coolcolj Double your immersion with my Tweaked Textures and Saving Private Ryan sound set mods for CM!! Check out my new Textures V2.0 photo Gallery and my music while your there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babra Posted February 24, 2000 Share Posted February 24, 2000 So the answer is no then. That wasn't too painful, was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted February 24, 2000 Share Posted February 24, 2000 The answer is yes... Any reading of Steve's discussions of the layers of AI (recently discussed) would have shown you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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