kevinkin Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Hi guys ,,, is this title a good addition to my library? I came across it in reading a biography of Gen. Albert Wedemeyer who proposed the Victory Program prior to WWII.Thanks.KevinPS: any scenarios potential based on Dunn's analysis? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 No, not worth your time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinkin Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 Thanks Jon. Is this a serious attempt to make a case for a cross channel in '43 or just hypothetical banter with no research into logistic constraints etc..?Kevin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) there is an extended discussion about an early Second Front here:http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=99879Dunn is referenced at various points, in the context of points being raised in the thread. View the thread as a discussion on the validity of ROUNDUP generally, rather than specifically addressed at Dunn. The cliffnotes version is that an early ROUNDUP would have been futile and best, and quite possibly a disaster. Given that, Dunn isn't looking too happy Incidentally, I had a look for serious, academic reviews of Dunn's book. I found the giddy total of one review, consisting of one short paragraph in a librarian's journal (i.e., not a mil-hist or even hist journal). Make of that what you will.Recall, too, that the book was originally published in 1980. The historiography of WWII has moved on a LOT in the last 35 years. Edited November 27, 2015 by JonS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinkin Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 I had not come across that thread. Seems my book on Wedemeyer released in 2012 is a bit too complimentary (as I was trying to figure out) related to his devotion to a cross channel in '43. The two books cited on Roundup's potential outcome are both from 1980 when late cold war revisionist material was popular. I am still trying to find the details of the victory program online. But it appears to be what engineers call an "order of magnitude" estimate to give his superiors a sense of what would be needed to invade NW Europe. Wedemeyer, who presented at TRIDENT and annoyed Churchill, was subsequently sent to China-Burma. He appears to have been at odds with US strategy that lost Eastern Europe and China to the Reds. Thanks again.Kevin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 ROUNDUP and an early invasion is thoroughly thrashed in Zuehlke's Tragedy at Dieppe. One source is not enough to base an evaluation on, but Jon is right, WW2 analysis has moved forward since the 80s and the discussion around these issues has matured from an idealized "we could have smashed them and stopped communism if only..." to a more realistic balancing of best outcomes and what is achievable with the resources available. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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