kid Posted December 13, 1999 Share Posted December 13, 1999 I was just wondering if the name After Overlord means that the actual D-Day invasion will not be included in the game. Also, I would like to know if the operations will be fictional or based on real battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted December 14, 1999 Share Posted December 14, 1999 S E A R C H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Wilder Posted December 15, 1999 Share Posted December 15, 1999 Both, Kidd! Most of the scenario and Operation material is historical in nature. You'll be reliving some real hot battles. ------------------ Wild Bill Wild Bill's Raiders Director of Scenario Design, The Gamers Net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid Posted December 15, 1999 Author Share Posted December 15, 1999 Thanks. Sorry if you guys have already have gone over some of the questions I ask. I only found out about this game last week when reading a CC4 review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Time Software Posted December 15, 1999 Share Posted December 15, 1999 No problem. If you want to see the detailed reason why there are no beach assaults, take a swing at Searching. There were a couple of long threads about this a ways back (several months at least). Glad you found us Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted December 15, 1999 Share Posted December 15, 1999 kid, you found out about this game from a CC4 review? Heh, that's actually kinda funny... Do you mind telling us which review that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_PanzerLeader Posted December 15, 1999 Share Posted December 15, 1999 SPeakinng of CC4 reviews had Fioon done one somewhere - I'd like to read his take on there latest 'accomplishment'> SS_PanzerLeader......out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted December 15, 1999 Share Posted December 15, 1999 After the "response" to my take on CC3 I think that there'd be hitmen after me if it was learned I was reviewing CC4 . My basic take is that CC is moving farther away from grognardism all the time and that I am dissapointed by the unrealistic nature of CAS, Calliopes, rocketHTs etc. I also think that the campaign screen not allowing concentration of force in a sense whic I feel is meaningful is a shame. I don't see much there for me BUT the real killer for the game will be the pathfinding issues IMO since people who buy CC4 and don't even know what a Calliope is WILL know that it shouldn't reverse towards the enemy It's a shame since I think CC did a lot of things right early on and it was innovative but I think that they're positioning it less in the wargame aisle and more in the RTS aisle. Sudden Strike has done the same. It is unabashedly an RTS and is a lot of fun. It cheerfully admits to putting fun before realism and so when I did my preview of it I judged it on that basis (the pathfinding in it is GREAT BTW... I tried hard to break it in the press preview copy I got but couldn't make it act stupidly...) and gave it a very good preview (it should be posted at TGN soon .. I handed it in a good while ago but hven't seen it posted yet). I think CC4 is paying a high price for being caught straddling two markets. I feel that it isn't going to truly satisfy either and that the lure of sales may pull it fully into the RTS market.. Sudden Strike is unashamedly an RTS and ends up being a better RTS than CC IMO while CC, by comparison, may end up dissapointing RTSers AND wargamers. The risk you run in straddling a couple of genres is that you mightn't be good enough in either of the genres to make an impact. In those cases you're better off to pick ONE genre and simply stick to it... I think Atomic will probably be seen moving more into the RTS genre than back into the hardcore wargaming genre. To anyone at Atomic reading this... No offence but that's my honest take. CC5 could probably present a major leap in realism to RTS players (due to the psych modelling etc) if you slip wholly into the RTS market BUT so long as you straddle both I think you won't fully sate either gamer type and are gonna continue getting a buffeting from both. ------------------ ___________ Fionn Kelly Manager of Historical Research, The Gamers Net - Gaming for Gamers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid Posted December 15, 1999 Author Share Posted December 15, 1999 I forgot what the internet adress was but it was the one with the all those little flames. I think it was called hotpicks. The review with the website was one of the reviews from a consumer. He said if you wanted to play a real World War Two game to come here and download CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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