DMS Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Hi Should 85mm guns penetrate Tiger gun mantlet with AP rounds? With APCR rounds? In some sources is said that gun mantlet thickness was 120mm, in others - 135-140mm. What is the true? Do you know detailed schemes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Tiger mantlet thickness ranges from 90mm around the edges to 150mm in other places, but the thinner areas are backed by the 100mm-thick front turret armor. Effective thickness should be about 135mm on average, although the areas surrounding the machine gun port and gunner's sight would be more like 110mm due to edge effects. It is unknown what thickness Combat Mission assumes, but if it is 135mm then Soviet 85mm APBC should be able to penetrate out to around 300 meters, APCR out to 600m or so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMS Posted August 17, 2014 Author Share Posted August 17, 2014 Thank you. So, that british report about 100mm thikness at average is false. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I would say so, and more importantly WW II Ballistics says so. Based on the diagrams I have seen the characterization of the areas over 100mm being "only local" is not accurate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amizaur Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 You can find on the web cross-sections of Tiger mantlet casting and see that the thickness is highly variable, but in most areas that actually protects the crew it's thicker than 100mm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMS Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 Found that book. All is clear, 135-150 for late modifications, only weal spot for 85mm is sight port. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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