Tactical Wargamer Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Our "The Battle of Normandy" operation board game has been a blast over the last few weeks. Quick question.... Have a unit with a counter with a stug on it. The unit is identified as 200 StuG Abt (FZ 18/39h) of the 21st Panzer Division. It has a Battalion symbol for size but it can also indicate "group". It has a 2 step (as opposed to a 3 Step full Battalion). Thinking this would be the Combat Mission Stug Battalion missing a company? Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASL Veteran Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Our "The Battle of Normandy" operation board game has been a blast over the last few weeks. Quick question.... Have a unit with a counter with a stug on it. The unit is identified as 200 StuG Abt (FZ 18/39h) of the 21st Panzer Division. It has a Battalion symbol for size but it can also indicate "group". It has a 2 step (as opposed to a 3 Step full Battalion). Thinking this would be the Combat Mission Stug Battalion missing a company? Thanks If I'm understanding your question correctly, then I would assume that in the board game every step would be the equivalent of a company. If that's the case, then yes, it would be a CMBN Stug battalion less one company. Except that Stug Abt 200 has four batteries and each battery would have six marder equivalents (they are actually French chassis with a 75mm gun on it) and four Wespe equivalents (once again, a French chassis with a 105mm gun on it). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactical Wargamer Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 right ok.....The author of "The Battle of Normandy" wargame though clearly indicates stug's as the main unit within this Battalion. The game also has Marder counters but this is not the silhouette. Is there any chance that these were stugs on June 6th? Your right though on the net I also came up with Marders. hmm strange. Thanks for the info ASL. Those were the days with all the milk boxes of rules for ASL. Ah the memories 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASL Veteran Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 right ok.....The author of "The Battle of Normandy" wargame though clearly indicates stug's as the main unit within this Battalion. The game also has Marder counters but this is not the silhouette. Is there any chance that these were stugs on June 6th? Your right though on the net I also came up with Marders. hmm strange. Thanks for the info ASL. Those were the days with all the milk boxes of rules for ASL. Ah the memories It's not strange as German TO&Es are probably pretty complicated unless you are just taking a standard TO&E and applying it across the board. If someone just goes by what a standard battalion would look like then you aren't going to be right 100% of the time. There is no chance that Stugs were in that particular battalion on June 6th as each vehicle was custom built from French chassis by the battalion commander in his French workshops before the invasion. They aren't even really Marders and Wespe either - they just resemble them the closest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 If someone just goes by what a standard battalion would look like then you aren't going to be right 100% of the time. Yep. Of the eleven* Pz Divs the Germans sent to Normandy, not one of them had an OoB or ToE the same as another. They were all unique in major and minor ways. * 1SS, 2, 2SS, 9, 9SS, 10SS, 12SS, 17SS, 21, 116, Lehr 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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