Suleyman

I’m going to go on record and say this war is gonna end as a stalemate. Wish it would be over already, a few HIMARs is not going to finish this war. Either go all in with the support or don’t, we’re already indirectly at war with Russia if our weapons have killed them. If there is a diplomatic way to end this war I think now would be the time, no more people have to die. If it continues going like this it’s just gonna be minor Russian gains in Donbas, heavy attrition and more civvies dead. Just some thoughts

That’s got to be a typo unless their propaganda is worse than the USSR’s

I think they do hit more than 1, I seen footage of them taking out 3-4 M777 a couple days ago on a twitter source. It’s normal to lose artillery in such an artillery heavy environment. The Russians lose artillery in the dumbest ways possible sometimes too. The Ukrainians seem to be better at shoot and scoot

I think the goal is to completely surround Lysychansk. If they are successful in this operation it seems they will make small rapid gains and they can have better chances towards Slavyansk.

Tochkas can do some massive damage if used right

I got a toyota too can the UKR help me install those self defense features too?

Good to hear that they retreated but i don’t know if they didn’t take casualties doing so. The Russians had direct fire control. I hope they didn’t. Those soldiers that withdrew are gonna bolster the defense and give Russians more problems

I think the Russians will have more success as time goes on but only in Donbas (maybe Kherson region?), Ukraine has the manpower advantage and if Russia decides something crazy they would suffer terribly. Ukrainians put up very strong resistance. As far as the LDNR troops standing close to their MLRS, that’s just stupid. I’ve been saying a while back the Russians need to learn what dispersion means. You cannot put troops and equipment so close to each other especially when UKR love opportunities like that

Lysychansk is still a very hard place to assault, unless the Russians completely surround it, it would take long to take it if they can.

I believe the Russians said there is 2000 soldiers in that Zolote Hiirskye cauldron(is that true? I dont know), 2-4km corridor is very dangerous to retreat from only because they will face artillery fire, and attack helicopters might be ordered to the area for exactly that reason. The Ukrainians may have to send some reinforcements to ease the retreat.

A positive mindset is key, even if Russia wins in Donbas they're not gonna go much further. They would have to raise a way larger army to do that. Only thing that's sad is that Ukrainian soldiers are dying, and civilians are suffering.

@Grigb @Haiduk Good information, I did take into account the combat experience of LDNR but I assumed that since the regular Russian units are seeing heavy combat and being rotated the experience should be catching up, and the fact that they are better equipped they would be more formidable. As for Ukrainians, what is considered their top tier? I know kraken, azov, aidar has some elite & extremely tough soldiers.

I’d say the top tier Russian infantry is probably contract regulars since they pull up in BTGs and various supports. Spetsnaz, VDV, and Wagner seem to be more capable when it comes to infantry on infantry. LDNR guys seem to be used to hold territory more. I don’t think the winter will be good for any side, as you guys said logistics is a problem. It’s gonna be a lot of artillery duels going on, but I wouldn’t be surprised if either side launches a winter offensive

Will the winter favor the Russians?

This conflict gives me a huge headache. Both sides claim the complete opposite and they’re not wrong even if it’s a lie because it’s a valid war tactic. Then they provide evidence and then the other does what’s the real situation lol.. still tho I’m sure Ukrainians are putting up stiff resistance

Interesting I'm not one to buy into claims without evidence, just stating what they said. Maybe they just want to threat Lysychansk instead of actually take it from the south to make it easier to attack from Severodonetsk.

Russian sources say they launched a general offensive in Lugansk, also they seem to want to attack Lyschansk from the south, which is obviously a better option than crossing through Severodonetsk.

That would be detected fast, especially since that is a major focus of the Russian military right now.

I would much more rather my unit go through the fields in line formation instead of columns on a road but it looks like they shelled the buildings to the point where there would be no threat on them approaching like that. still what if there is an angry Ukrainian squad with a RPG waiting for them to drive by.

I agree with you, I think in a twisted way the Russians needed this in order to learn lessons (not that I care or support them) they never learned from the 5 day war in Georgia, nor even from the issues LPR/DPR faced. Practically none, the shockwave would end up killing them unfortunately... not to talk about the insane thermobaric heat and explosion. The Russians use TOS to devastating effects, and I'm surprised they don't use them in Severodonetsk.

Hostomel assault you can kind of make sense, they assumed it would be empty or almost no resistance and that the ground forces would link up quickly. But Mykolaiv and Odessa? What were they smoking (or drinking?)

I appreciate the info crazy assault honestly but they wasted their surprise potential with that, Ukraine responded fast.

Question, what happened there? The Russians (VDV) took the airport then got surrounded before their ground forces came is what I heard. But I don't know the truth

Better that I say like active installations, for example a S-300 site where the Russians could detect it and engage it with stand off range SEAD, and cruise missiles. I'd like to think closer to the front it's way more passive, hiding and waiting for the opportunity which in my opinion is more dangerous.

I'm sure our forces would be taking heavy (for our standards) losses too just minus the incompetent losses that the Russians took, which makes up a big portion of losses. The Ukrainian meme where the guy says "we are so lucky they are stupid" comes to my mind. lol.. but I think that had to due with inexperience more so than stupidity actually maybe a little bit of both. The Ukrainians have smart leadership all across the board, where as the Russians have to learn on the job. As for the Israelis, what they say on theory sounds good, considering as of lately they just occupy people that don't even have an active insurgency going around, or the occasional bombing of the Syrian government forces. It's desert and open terrain for the most part in Syria and Iraq it's way easier to detect and engage forces with artillery and aviation there. I also don't believe the Iranians have the ability to invade Israel. I get the idea though, engage them before they can be a threat. Not really applicable to the style of fighting the Russians and Ukrainians got going on. The Russians just blitzed through Northern Eastern and Southern Ukraine, but didn't really prepare for heavy attrition. The Ukrainians deny Russians air superiority not because of an integral air defense but because they use passive style, a BUK or S-300V system hiding and waiting can do some major damage to Russian aircraft who is unsuspecting. The Russians cannot afford to lose their top tier aircraft let alone CAS to the defenses of the Ukrainians. I agree that this is a major success on the Ukrainian side, if it wasn't like this it would be hell for Ukrainian defenders, the Russians got a lot of dumb bombs. If they could have SU-25s and SU-24s just using their CCIP to drop bombs from mid range I'd have to assume they would be having way more success in advancing.