SteelRain
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18 hours ago, danfrodo said:
So are you thinking that perhaps Netanyahu will actually get some of the blame? I was thinking that he'll pass the blame on to others, successfully, but maybe it goes the other direction. As was stated in a post above, perhaps the claim that Netanyahu was so busy playing politics & cronyism that he left the country vulnerable. I can't stand Netanyahu so I would enjoy watching that.
In my small, little, perfect world that is what i would hope for. A factual and objective investigation after the dust has settled but i am convinced that this attack will brush away the opposition to Netanyahu and the 2023 judicial reform.
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27 minutes ago, Butschi said:
In a German newspaper I read something about Israel's Pearl Harbour. That is an interesting parallel because now we can have the same (conspiracy) theories about the government actually knowing about it in advance but doing nothing because they profited from it.
I think the overwhelming majority participating in this discussion is not interested in superficial bull**** like the Stab-in-the-back myth. Lets focus on facts backed by evidence instead.
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I'm a bit puzzled by the scale of the attack and can't believe that in this day and age preparations for such action were not noticed by Israels intelligence services.
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17 hours ago, Centurian52 said:
Darn. And I was so looking forward to seeing some Leopard 1A5Vs
As far as i understand it, the problem could be caused by the armor layout and not the capability to carry more weight.
The currently delivered Leopards have the late box type turret. It consists of an outer and inner thin steel plate with a filling of air or some kind of plastic.
Source of the images:
https://ndb51.wordpress.com/2019/08/12/thu-vi-xem-xe-tang-leopard-1a3-trong-tinh-trang-bi-cat-doc/
My guess is that the outer steel plate can't withstand the energy produced by the explosion of the ERA Brick.The Canadians demonstrated that the Leopard 1 can handle a lot of weight by adding MEXAS NERA add-on armor kits while deployed to Kosovo and MEXAS + mine plows or dozer blades while operating in Afghanistan.
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Russian State TV clown show reporting about the meeting of 2 neurotics in the east, starved of toilette bowls and washing machines. Also featured a clueless Shoigu.
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17 hours ago, Battlefront.com said:
That makes total sense. But it does make me wonder if dragging a steel bar with some plates on it, suspended by crossed chains (to limit lateral movement), could be effective in detonating AP mines while on the move. It's one of those ideas that might work in theory but in practice not, so I'm assuming that's why nobody does it.
Thanks for that video! High quality, crisp video of Leopard 1 is great to watch. I admit that I find them quite sexy!
One thing that came to mind is that the Bundeswehr (and others) have still have very fresh institutional knowledge about these vehicles since they've only recently been retired by most nations. Compare this to Russia rolling out T-55s where the instructors likely had to crack open some books to familiarize themselves with them.
A small detail to note. The Bundeswehr provided the Ukrainians standard issue BW uniforms. I've seen other training videos where the host country supplies uniforms. They should have sprung a few extra Euros to also give them some Panzerkombi (coveralls) and not just the standard 2 piece uniform (one guy was wearing a parka without liner, which I found odd). Sorry, I'm a uniform grog so couldn't help mentioning it.
I only saw German officers and, briefly, the sleeve of a Ukrainian uniform. A one star general shown briefly at the beginning wears the beret of the German-French Brigade.
Steve
There is a second video form the press briefing. Sadly only auto generated subtitles are available. Made a short recap.
- German-French brigade is currently providing most of the instructors for the training hub north with Pz.Btl. 203 providing tank specific training
- Danish trainers had the most recent knowledge of the Leo1
- German and Dutch trainers had to reacquire their knowledge as the Leo1 was phased out earlier than in Denmark
- the press asked if Ukrainians would benefit from the delivery of such a old tank and Marlow repeats all the things that were discussed in this thread
basically the Leo1a5 is a 2a4 with thin armor compared to the Russian stuff the tank is able to reverse
, has a thermal imager, fully stabilized main gun and better crew ergonomics.
- until the end of May 15000 Ukrainian soldiers have been trained
- goal to train soldiers was raised to 30000 by the end of November 2024 but Gen Marlow is sure they will hit the mark much earlierLooking at the AMX 10RC I'm under the impression the Ukrainians know how to employ Stug's on steroids.
12 hours ago, Haiduk said:Probably the shield, changing trajectory of bullets, to protect legs of infantry, who follow behind IFV during attack. This feature has been using since ATO times. Often in front of BTR/BMP were mounted multiple chains.
As @holoween and the @The_Capt said on Bundeswehr vehicles they are for camouflage reasons, mostly made of rubber or some sort of natural fiber like burlap.
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Some information on the Leopard 1 training in Germany.
- done by Danish, Dutch and German instructors
- basic course lasts 6 weeks with 6 days of training per week and 12 hours of training per day
- its the fifth rotation in its fifth week of training
- there were multiple gunnery runs this day. within these runs multiple states of equipment failure where simulated e.g. aiming with and without stabilization or worst case hand crank everything using the backup optical sight and try to score a hit while moving slowly
- Ukrainians stick to 3 tanks per platoonhttps://www.youtube.com/embed/NdpHjoPkS8M
English subtitles are available
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7 hours ago, cesmonkey said:
At least there is some hope that the Russians half assed the developement of the KA 52 too.
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on a side note:
Germany alocated funds for 3 Israeli made Arrow missile defense systems and 6 IRIS-T SLM systems. The first Arrow system should be ready by 2025.
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54 minutes ago, Kraft said:
Okay, before I lose my cool
: am I mistaking that these are new Bradleys, that tried to drive around the older Bradleys, that have already succeeded in demining activity, and got blown up in the same line, which probably contains the mine belt? Or were those just not visible in the first pictures?
They all look abandoned after going over mines (which means easy pickings for drones with grenades and artillery, btw)
And please dont start with the "its an attack losses are standard" what makes me angry is that this appears like a zhukov style drive forward and explode command, not a battle.
I've read that the column was struck behind the frontline while on the move. Is Russia employing FASCAM? If so, a fire mission in front of the column combined with a drone observing, airsupport and an artillery barrage would be a nasty surprise.
PS: Image to raise moral
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21 minutes ago, Der Zeitgeist said:
Yesterday wasn't a good one for Julian Röpcke already. Today, things deteriorated further.
More evidence that Röpcke's self perception as a military expert and his actual knowledge of military things don't really fit together. Maybe we should donate a copy of CM:SF2 to him. If we want him to have a mental breakdown within the first 5 minutes playing the game lets chose CM:BS
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41 minutes ago, Kraft said:
Not the crews, commanders. Where are the mine prowlers? UR belts? Heck, even 4 guys with minesweepers if you go down a single road anyway.
If there are none, why commence the attack and waste lifes, resources to establish that there are in fact mines and arty correction drones.
So far this is another desperate attempt of the Russian propaganda machine trying to convince the audience with wonky, low res clips stitched together that Ukraine is failing. There are lots of missing frames in between the cuts.
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11 hours ago, DesertFox said:
The orcs really seem to be obsessed with Leopard 2s...
Google translation:
"RUS propaganda, however, are retards, which are not enough.
You know my yesterday's episode about the slaughter of Leopard 2s in Syria? Well, from ISIS videos, Russian brysie bears cut out one of the leons, recolored it and pasted it behind their smashed teciak.
And before that we had the great Zaporozhian John Deer mascara with the Ka-52."Haven't seen the video in here, so for the sake of comprehensiveness i present a Russian chopper crew committing war crimes. Maybe John Deer has a line of harvesters called Leopard?
The last strike in the Video is particularly fishy, as the flight time is too short and the boom too big. Looks like they attacked another piece of innocent Ukrainian soil just like the terminator fighting hords of Ukrainian trees some time ago.https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1666089176633327620/pu/vid/848x464/IWoTvdGyAzT3uZKq.mp4?tag=12
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13 hours ago, Haiduk said:
Probably foreground tanks really Ukrainian, but it's unclear. Burning tank obviously Russian (top cage)
Looks like the tank with the cope cage was destroyed by infantry with 2 rpg's at the edge of treeline. Arround 00:33-00:34 tow distinct smoke plumes can be seen. The tank cooks off instantly.
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7 hours ago, MikeyD said:
Leopard 1A4 with the welded turret has never seen combat, has it? Now that i think of it, has any Leopard 1 seen combat beside the few Canadian examples that went to Afghanistan?
In 1994 the Danish were the first to use the Leopard 1 in combat in Bosnia vs Bosnian Serbs. The Danish acquired Leo 1A3 with welded turrets in 1976 and upgraded them to 1A5DK in the early 1990's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bøllebank
Fast forward to 2023 and it looks like Operation Bully Bashing II is on the way. Lets hope for the Mouse to feast on another Cat
German and Danish instructors training Ukrainian Crews in Germany.
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1 hour ago, Battlefront.com said:
Yikes! That is a good number pulled out of the back of the closet! Do they even have reliable ammo for them?
When the T-62s first appeared they were seen on railcars. Some wondered if they were going to be dug in as pillboxes. Still a possibility for this even thought that didn't seem to happen with the T-62s.
Steve
At fist they were seen on rail cars and as of now, according to Oryx website, 73 T-62's have been lost in Ukraine.
I was under the impression that the Russians scraped their T54 and T55 tanks long ago. Looks like the secret purpose of the patriot parks was uncovered. Having all this old stuff ready and serviced regularly in case things go south.
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1 hour ago, chuckdyke said:
Nice practice range 2km from a Leo 2 you need to start with something easy for a Turkey-Shoot.
Looks like the plot thickens. This train has been spotted multiple times.
https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/11yfbh9/alleged_video_showing_t5455s_going_towards_ukraine/Time to send every running Leopard 1 to Ukraine and have a delayed early Cold War gone hot 60 years later
@The_Capt Do you know what happened to the decommissioned Canadian Leopard 1 tanks?
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23 minutes ago, Endyamon said:
In my humble opinion, it's a t-62. I see no smoke launcher on the turret. They should be located at the front of it
Not necessarily. The early T-72's came without smoke launchers. This would fit the assumption that the Russian reserve of T-72 tanks is almost depleted.
Here is an early T-72 without smoke launchers.
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15 hours ago, Bil Hardenberger said:
Without a doubt.. you can even make out, if you look close enough, the bore evacuator in the middle of the barrel.
In my opinion this is some kind of early T-72 without ERA stuck in reverse gear. The bore evacuators on both T-62 and T-72 tanks are roughly at the same spot. The presence of what looks to be a luna search light on the right hand side of the barrel would support my assumption as it sits in the distinctive spot since the introduction of the T-64.
The gunner moved the turret to the 7 or 8 o'clock posotion propably to allow the driver to escape. Sideskirts and the sudden violent cock of scheme are also more in line with a T-72.I've upressed a screencapture with Photoshop.
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German Minister of Defense Boris Pistorius visits Panzerbattalion 203 and gets a display of the Leo's capability's . The unit will hand over 14 Leopard 2a6 to Ukraine. In his speech he mentions, that currently not all the necessary tanks to equip 2 battalions have been donated yet. The negotiations on further tanks are ongoing.
Concerning the replacement of the 14 tanks he says that these should be ordered asap and he doesn't care where the money is coming from.English subtitles are available
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The terminator is back to fight another propagandabattle vs nothing. For a vehicle that entered service in 2021 it looks pretty rusty and worn-out.
https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/10nkrp5/operation_of_a_russian_tank_support_fighting/ -
16 hours ago, Battlefront.com said:
We are always hesitant because any predictions we make are likely to be wrong if we make any attempt to put reasonable dates to specific events. We could, of course, say our next release is in 2040 and probably, but not for sure, release early
I was waiting for something to click into place before posting. It has clicked, so I'll be posting an update tomorrow night.
Steve
That click must have been the european nations releasing their leoprads so you guys can release them into CM:CW?
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16 hours ago, MikeyD said:
Yeh, for all we know the Pentagon may have simply looked at the bridge ratings across the country and said "Oh...lets not send them Abrams after all." I recall back in 1999 the US march into Kosovo turned into something of a farce as they struggled to get their heavy MBTs from point A to point B.
In 1999 the Bundeswehr had a Reserve Formation on Standby at the Bergen Training Range equipped with
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1 hour ago, keas66 said:
Whispers from another forum :
“Members of the military community allege it wasn't the vehicle that was the problem, but planning. They say that the maintainers weren't supplied with spares, and apparently the civilian contractors tasked with training the maintainers weren't brought in. Apparently, the vehicles had been scheduled to undergo maintenance before the exercise but for some reason that never happened”
If that is true the easiest way for the manufactures would be to release an official statement to safe his reputation and blame the Bundeswehr for the failed maintenance. That didn't happen so i guess both are to blame and cable fire sounds more like a serious design flaw.
How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?
in Combat Mission Black Sea
Posted · Edited by SteelRain
With ongoing reliability issues and lessons from the War in Ukrain, Germany will ditch its Tiger Attack Helicopters in favour of new solutions like artillery deployed loitering munitions, while France and Spain will upgrade their Tiger's. As interim solution the Bundeswehr will acquire the H145M utility helicopter.