VladimirTarasov
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Yes this may be the most noob question asked, Can anyone tell me how I can download scenarios and campaigns?
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Good points, But the T-90A's thermal has a guaranteed identification range of 2.6 Kilometers, And considering Russia is most likely to engage NATO in Europe which the average engagement range was estimated to be 1.3-1.6KM I think it wouldn't be as big of a problem. I agree that the M1A2 SEP is superior to the T-90A in sensor terms, And in AP firepower M1A2 is more powerful. But that doesn't mean the T-90A is not on par with NATO heavy tanks. But if you ask me, I think we need T-90AMs and T-14s if we want to remain a viable ground power in the coming 3-10 years. T-72B3Ms would do good too, The T-72B3s still have the ancient commander periscope for some reason...
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Yes, here I agree. In the West we view using cluster bombs on civilian neighborhoods and repeatedly deliberately targeting hospitals, not to mention directly supporting a regime that uses starvation and mass murder as being very bad things which are counter productive and against international law. Russia, on the other hand paints its intervention in Syria as being a campaign of precision attacks against only terrorists and in support of the "legitimate" ruler of Syria. So yes, one can definitely see that there are different perspectives on things like the war in Syria. Or Ukraine. Or pretty much everything else.
Jesus, Steve... A total ignoring of facts provided by the Syrian government, Or the people of Donetsk and Luhansk. But anyways I'm not interested in another argument
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Re: Oplots
Those and those alone are the reason I have some questions about Ukrainian tanks. Their sensors shouldn't be too drastically far behind Russian armor, and yet, feels rather like you've got a T-34 out there vs something somewhat modern.
Re: T-90A
The skinny on why I'm not especially impressed:
1. The armor array cannot effectively resist any US Army anti-armor (and many western NATO) weapons. It'll do okay against some earlier model TOW-2s, but it doesn't have enough protection to resist sabot type rounds, or more advanced ATGMs. If I could see it, the question was never "if" I could kill it.
2. The firepower is lacking. The autoloader limited just how potent the shells could be, and as a result it increasingly fell behind western armor design. If he could see me, there's a simple chance he's not going to be able to kill me.
3. The sensor package is marginal. Like about on par for everyone else's 1990's vintage tanks, but poor in 2005 and very poor in 2017. Not only in terms of detection/target discrimination, what's the point of having a stand-off weapon like an ATGM if you cannot actually spot a target at stand-off range?
4. It's a small compact tank. While giant house sized tanks are sub optimal, looking at how smaller tanks react to penetration, usually there's something to be said for somewhat bigger (or compare, late model Sherman and T-34s were about on par for armor protection. However in practice, while each Sherman knocked out tended to generate around 1 KIA or WIA per penetration, however T-34s had a 75% mortality rate for crewmen on struck tanks let alone WIA). The T-90 couldn't take a turret penetration without likely killing the turret crew and firepower killing the tank, and that autoloader seems to like to explode. I know folks who've walked away from catastrophic Abrams losses with one very messy KIA but otherwise the rest of the crew intact. Not sure a smaller more compact vehicle would have handled it as well, and the advantages to something that compact pay off enough to make the downsides worth it.
I see what you're meaning, The firepower is somewhat lacking in the AP category against say the M1A2 and others like it but it has HE, HEAT, ATGM rounds as well. The Autoloader did limit the shell size, Which pretty much killed its AP potential, If I remember correctly the 3BM42M penetrates 680-700 mm of RHA at 2 KM. Would be good enough for hull shots, Turret shots not so much against the M1A2 @ 2 KM
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I think you guys are looking at it wrongly... The west has its propaganda and the east has its propaganda. One may look at a situation in Syria through the western perspective and support anti-Assad regimes, One can look at the east's perspective and support Assad and his allies. Then comes the information war, Accusing each other of wrong information. The internet has a bunch of trolls, Who's to say Putler is sponsoring them?
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Panzer, Without starting a heated debate
you being a experienced tank commander, What do you see of the T-90A that leads you to your thoughts on it? Of course you haven't been in one or ever near one but I'd rather listen to your criticism then non tankists. -
In game it is quite lacking, And I agree about the Ukrainian optics... They're almost non-existent.
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Certainly doesn't act like it.
What makes you say that?
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The T-90A is not an aging 90s tank... It was brought into service in the mid 2000s... Totally new armor packages then the T-72B, And the T-90 (1990s era) I usually use T-90As as a break through force against US forces. T-72B3s I'd use as company support, And if needed they can engage enemy armor. I like to attach at-least 1 T-72B3 to a company. And have T-90As as break through force.
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Good link Haiduk, Better then other ones I have read.
Steve, Those artillery pictures do bring up a few questions to my mind. I'll have to do some research into how these artillery pieces were acquired.
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Haiduk, Both sides have had hilarious media coverage
It would be hilarious if you could send the link here, I heard other hilarious things from the separatists sides, But I'm sure its joking. But of course the separatists have some real fools in there too. I was watching a VICE video, And the Ukrainian lieutenant said that the attacking rebels were under performance enhancers and drugs because they were advancing so fearless. But of course this has nothing to do with fearlessness, They have an order and they were carrying it out. -
Perhaps you guys could provide some more information on this? Just a link would be fine, I can read Ukrainian no need for translations.
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Here's an incredible video showing what the combat was like in the final weeks of the Debaltseve battle. It includes footage of the withdrawal:
https://www.funker530.com/battle-for-debaltseve-ukrainian-soldiers-pov/
There's a lot of things to notice, but the one that comes through more than any others is that these Ukrainian soldiers are not bed wetting conscripts prone to panic.
Conscripts aren't prone to panic either way, From my experiences with them. Give them the right motivation ("Russian invaders") and they'll actually function well.
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Panzer, You know alot about our history and monsters we have been carving. If I continue on about Kosovo and NATO bombing of Yugoslavia it will be totally off topic, And Steve being the big guy of the company I will respect him not wanting me to continue these arguments
I'm curious, where might be the best sources on Iloviask? Did the UKR command smarten up after that? What have they learned from both battles?
If the Ukrainian government attempted to send reinforcements while trying to establish secure corridors for those reinforcements, The outcome of llovaisk would have been different. The ATO was successful in entering llovaisk, Holding their territory was the problem.
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Steve, There are countless footage showing shelling from Ukrainian artillery units onto the cities of DNR and LNR, My aunt herself lived there and had to go to Crimea... But personal stuff away, 90% of the fighting force in Ukraine is people from the territory, And most people there support DNR and LNR. If you were to visit there it would change your look onto the war. Instead of believing that a counter offensive into Debaltseve was to invade Ukraine and occupy the Ukrainians (Yes this was a shot fired to Sburke) Remember that it wasn't the Separatists who invaded their own territory, It was the Ukrainian armed forces who invaded these territories. This is the same hypocrisy shown towards Kosovo by NATO.... I guess when a largely Russian and Ukrainian population decide that they won't be apart of a government they didn't vote for it is wrong. I wish there were 8 Russian tactical battalions in Ukraine during the fighting, Maybe less innocent people would have died.
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I like sburke's question... do you admit that there was even one? How about one from the 6th Guards Tank Brigade? Can you at least, finally, admit they were there? That would at least be a start.
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The Regular Russian military was used but not in the numbers stated. I can explain some detail into it, As it will not matter either way. During Debaltseve, There were certain Russian tank units used, They were used as spearhead units during the operation. Crews from tank brigades were used and mixed into Separatist units, The Regular Russian army units have been used in dire situations, And not in great number mostly as a support asset for a operation. Let's not forget these units weren't in regular strength or build. Russian strategy in Ukraine is Advisory, Training, And supplies. To say even one Russian tactical battalion is in Ukraine is not correct. The units sent there are specialized to be mixed into the NovoRussian army. I won't deny that the NovoRussian army's HQ directly answers to the Russian armed forces' command, But when the rebellion started those guys did not even have HMG as a company level support. Normally, The Russian government will not stand by and let the Ukrainian army do what it did in the Eastern Ukraine, The decision was made to supply this group and turn it into an army, The DNR and LNR has had luck with getting equipment from Ukrainian stocks, And most of their equipment until recently were of Ukrainian army origins.
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Steve, Sure you're right!
Haiduk,
Your numbers sound solid, Right until the 8 battalion-tactical groups of the Russian army... I won't get into further detail until you can provide more information on it.
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If I checked my facts, The Seperatists were successful in Debalsteve.... Ukrainians simply retreated, And there are many videos out there proving this. Debaltseve was in no way a success for Ukraine... And I'm not taking a bias, Ukraine had successes in that war as well. But most of the Ukrainian army is not motivated, Conscripted usually. Their equipment is getting better, Training standards on average are better (maybe not recently) Right sector units are very high motivated and trained, And they have proved their worth in the war. What failed the Ukrainian army the most was their HQ, They gave out wrong plans, And issued wrong orders. That was what failed them in the battle for Donetsk's airport.
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Nice footage and informative minus the bias
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They need to be more careful with these tanks
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Logistics is probably the main reason on continuing with the new 2A82M1 cannon, They can fire the older rounds still. Once NATO heavy armor gets more stronger then the upgrade to 152mm will come to reality.
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Yep Russians are so stupid! We barely provide any logical points! 100% of our media is Putler controlled
The 152 mm cannon on the T-14 is a IF needed upgrade, Its already tested and designed from the T-95, Probably newer stuff are being looked into on it. But the Russian army service armatas that will enter production in 2017 or 2018 will be equipped with the 2A82M1 a 125 mm cannon, Which will be firing newly developed ammunition for it, As well as being able to fire the older rounds. Information given from it isn't much, We can always point out mistakes but there isn't much information given too.
If T-14s are to be upgraded to 152mm then it would be in the 2020s, The 2A82M1 is enough for modern western armor for now. I don't think there will be 152 mm FSV on the armata series. Probably a Kurganets with the 2A82M1, Which would be for fast reaction units.
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Yep, T-72s were made to get destroyed by a Javelin. Great logic.
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A Russian AA unit is trained to identify military units from observation, And before a BUK unit would launch in this scenario they would need to get authorization from higher ranks, Militarily speaking a Russian army unit would not shoot an aircraft of this type down. As for seperatists shooting it down, How in the name of God would they, It is insanely hard to use the BUK systems. This leaves 2 things that can be true,
1. The Russian army purposely shot it down (which I highly highly highly highly doubt)
2. Ukrainians shot it down for exactly what happened afterwards, To politically demonize Russia and maybe even get western intervention. I doubt this one too, But honestly this sounds more right to me then a 3 month plus trained crew on a BUK anti air defense system shooting down a high altitude flying air craft.
Me personally, I am not blaming any side for this because it could be either of the two. But I do wonder which official allowed a flight of such airplanes over a conflict zone like this... I'm very sorry to the families of the victims but Ukrainian air control should be more sorry.
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Thanks for the link, But I mean how can I get the files to the right location, To play the scenario.