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    Russia will convert all T-90As to T-90AMs as a less costly alternative to Armata

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    Posted · Edited by antaress73

    Indeed, I would not fight in one. I value my life too highly. I went inside a t-72M once .. so small. No space for anything getting through the armor to avoid you and the ammo. À fiery screaming death is what awaits you if hit by anything heavy and western. (It can survive RPG penetrations though) Thats why the armata is so important and they should empty the coffers for them. Even T-90AMs would be an improvement.

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    Russia will convert all T-90As to T-90AMs as a less costly alternative to Armata

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    8 hours ago, VladimirTarasov said:

    Russian MoD isn't buying any T-90AMs... T-72s are being upgraded to B3 standard, T-14s are starting mass production in 2017-2018. I'm not even sure if B3Ms will be bought. Russian MoD is making a mistake in the tank sector, I'd at least upgrade B3s to B3Ms.

    The b3s are severely criticized in the russian army itself. Dont know why they dont upgrade them at 500 000 a piece to make the changes.

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    Russia will convert all T-90As to T-90AMs as a less costly alternative to Armata

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    9 hours ago, L0ckAndL0ad said:

    You're imagining stuff. They did not say they're going to do it. MOD said it would consider UVZ's offer in 2016. UVZ, as many other developers/manufacturers, offers stuff left and right, all the time. Doesn't mean a thing.

    They specifically say they were going to upgrade the T-90As to AM standard . This is not imagined. If they changed their minds again or the article is incorrect that's not my fault.

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    Russia will convert all T-90As to T-90AMs as a less costly alternative to Armata

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    4 minutes ago, panzersaurkrautwerfer said:

    But again, following that logic, how do we know the US doesn't operate 40 foot nuclear battle robots completely in secret?  

    It's really hard to totally 100% disprove something.  However the chatter  and indicators for a Russian fielding of a new tank type seem to indicate there's still some significant problems in the pipeline, and nothing indicates T-90AMs or something beyond the T-72B3 being in service in four to five months.  

    I was not talking about four of five months ... more a year... which would put the T-90AM at the end of the game's timeframe.

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    Are Russia's military advances a problem for Nato?

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    3 minutes ago, panzersaurkrautwerfer said:

    How do you know the US doesn't have giant 40 foot nuclear powered kill robots?

    Russian EW is a threat, but it's not a threat without limits, or answers.  Which is why these conversations are so annoying, it's either an unstoppable threat that will turn American soldiers into pro-putin zombiebots, or it's a total non-threat, don't worry about it.  

    Ultimately technology and military hardware is a complex interplay between threat, countermeasure, with ultimately rarely the tools or the weapons being truly decisive.  It's not US armored superiority that would undo the Russians in an eastward push, it's that net total, NATO is militarily dangerous enough to prevent Russia from accomplishing its tasks, and the political ramifications make it bitter fruit even in the event of a victory.  Russian EW capabilities are dangerous and would make things much harder.  But they do not exist in a vacuum, and likely do not offer a decisive advantage as much as a reduction in NATO's advantages.  

    Anyway, both sides are dangerous enough to be able to limit the other side in their objectives. I dont say that Russia will rip through NATO because of EW. Of course its a complex interaction.Strategically speaking, in the modern world, a military solution is NEVER a solution. There are all kinds of bitter fruits for anybody. The US knows about this pretty well. 

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    Russia will convert all T-90As to T-90AMs as a less costly alternative to Armata

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    13 minutes ago, panzersaurkrautwerfer said:

    "They won't fail forever"

    Here's the thing.  If virtually every time the same factors have torpedoed every attempt to accomplish a given task, and those factors remain entirely unchanged, simple repetition is not enough to cause a success.  If the fact you were 300 lbs overweight and had never run more than 400 feet in a go in your life held you back from being a champion marathon runner, simply trying another marathon without addressing the weight or the running ability likely means you're pretty doomed.  Same deal with Russian military procurement, there's a lot of low number or phantom systems, all of which were supposed to redefine warfare tactics extreme, that have done pretty much nothing of the sort.

    Also interestingly could you find an article discussing these plans sometime after January?  You'd think if factories were tooling up to crank out T-90AMs in production quantities four months from now, there'd be more than the howling silence and the "Armata will succeed!" mumblings.  

    I agree with repetition ... but what we know in the west and what is happening could be very different. They probably changed a few things and shook things up. I dont read russian and most of the best sources are in russian. There could much more data available using russian open sources. They are pretty critical of the government for the few articles I tried to read using google translate. Drove me crazy. Western sources are usually pretty outdated. For all we know.. there could be a bataillon of them operational and we wouldnt find an article in the western press.

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    Russia will convert all T-90As to T-90AMs as a less costly alternative to Armata

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    Posted · Edited by antaress73

    T-90am is not as big an improvement as the armata .. quite doable. They wont fail forever . In fact , this is not a totally new tank . They may not modernize all of them .. but even 200 will mean that battlefront was right in including them in the game. In fact, Steve himself preferred that course as more realistic for Russia than the Armata program. 

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    Russia will convert all T-90As to T-90AMs as a less costly alternative to Armata

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    Posted · Edited by antaress73

    Well batllegront was prescient again. The T-90am will be adopted in numbers by the russian army. The change is due to less favorable economic conditions. All T-90a tanks will be converted to T-90am.  Thats around 500-600 tanks. First batch will be received by the end of 2016.

    Additionally , 150 T-72Bs will be converted to the T-72B4 or B3M standard. . It has a panoramic sight with thermals for the commander, a new gun and ammo, new FCS and Relikt armor. First batch of 32 will be received in the autumn. (2016)

     

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/russias-military-modernization-tank-fleets-and-ground-forces/5499117

    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russias-first-post-syria-move-stronger-t-72-battle-tanks-15500

    I would love to see the B3M/B4 in the game.

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    Are Russia's military advances a problem for Nato?

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    Posted · Edited by antaress73

    Not a problem, NATO will easily defeat Russia in any scenario. Losses will be minimal and  the Russians are in for a rude surprise . Russia thinks it is way bigger than  it is in reality. So is China. If they think they can challenge western benevolent hegemony in the world they are seriously deluded or incompetent, probably both ;) Their weapons are still second best in a lot of areas and the best they have is only available in small numbers. Most of their equipment is cheaply upgraded soviet era junk. Electronic warfare is not a worry. Western weapons and comm gear are hardened against jamming. Their soldiers range from fairly good (but still inferior to a similar western soldier) to third world rabble only good to die in droves.

    The Western armies are made for war and very well funded. They have experience, technological superiority and numbers if given enough time. The USA especially. They have a martial culture that permeates the whole of their society. 

    Only nuclear weapons makes Russia a threat but it can't use them unless they want to commit national suicide. Finally, Its economy is slowly being strangled by the West financial's supremacy. 

    The Russian civilisation is slowly dying and the Western one is there to stay.

    There you go, you now have the forum's majority opinion. 

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    RPO effectiveness against light armor and building penetration

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    Posted · Edited by antaress73

    4 hours ago, John Kettler said:

    antaress73,

    Impressive, but flawed, I think, as far as the video. The bus, which already had an interior exposed to the outside, was a prime thermobaric weapon target. The BRDM-2 wasn't buttoned, which allowed the explosive mixture to detonate inside the vehicle. I doubt this would've happened without such ready access.

    Regards,

    John Kettler

    Yes but the RPO is made to be effective against light armor.. it is not effective  in the game.. the video is not a proof but it is in the official specs 

    See that link: http://www.defensereview.com/new-rpo-shmel-m-infantry-rocket-flamethrower-man-packable-thermobaric-weapon/

     

    effective against light armor. It has penetrative abilities against light armor and walls. No need to hit a window to achieve an effect. 

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    RPO effectiveness against light armor and building penetration

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    Posted · Edited by antaress73

    A few months ago there was a discussion about RPO being nerfed. We did some test and it DID give a strong boost in urban combat to Russian forces if used in mass. Individual firings were a hit and miss on a regular two storey building. I found some videos where an RPO destroys a BRDM-2 AFV on youtube. I went into the game to do some tests and it had no effect against the 7mm side armor of that cardboard AFV and this despite multiple hits. Yup, IR optics and wheels were taken out but the vehicule protected its crew and was not destroyed.  It also had no effect against humvees, armored trucks.

    As for firing at infantry in buildings,   again I found it must pass through a window to have any effect inside a building. Only one out of four rockets did kill or wound soldiers inside even a small house building. It took 5 of them to collapse that same  small building. In real life, it can penetrate walls and explode inside, thus its effectiveness against light armor. A lot of sources rate it as powerful as a 155m shell. Even if that`s exagerrated, a 122mm equivalency would be reasonable. It would not take 5 of them to collapse a small house. 

    Maybe it would imbalance the game too much to give the RPO its due.. Data is much less readily available on open sources contrary to  WWII era titles where exquisite details can be obtained and stuff modeled very accurately. I do not question Battlefront's commitment to realism and accuracy in its WWII titles. 

    here`s the RPO video: 

     

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    Proof BMP-2s do fire ATGMs

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    Posted · Edited by antaress73

    4 hours ago, Sublime said:

    Ok ill eat crow. I was wrong. Odd. Ill run tests tonight then. How is it that mine never fired in hundreds of games. Ask IanL or Nidan1 how many times theyve fought my 2Ms with no kornets firing.

    I cannot get mine to fire no matter what I do. And what about the other people who cant get them to fire, and vanir saying its a known issue? Not saying your wrong but i got no problem puttn a test of mine together and showing you mine will not fire

    Antaress sorry for what? Im happy for you. I just dont understand 1. The tests that were done that showed the 2ms never fired and the problems a multitude including me have never seen.

    Besides soft factors what specifically do you do diff if anything when using them to get them to fire?

    Sburke you know ive been playing cm for a  long long time and therefore know how to play the game and the mechanics of the game. I cannot get the missiles to fire nor have ever seen them fire.

    Id also like to point to Kinos (?) tests ran on all red atgm vehicles where he got em all to fire cept the 2m. Can anyone explain that then?  And for tonight when im home- what parameters do you guys want for my tests in case the bmp2ms fail?

    I dont know. Maybe its an issue only found in multiplayer games ? They fire all the time in my games against the computer . I wasnt using them since you and other people were saying they didnt fire their kornets but since i've decided to check and found out there was no issue I started using them. I never attack an "intact" Abrams or Bradley, I arty the hell out of them or strafe them with helicopters and SU-25s before engaging them with kornets or I try to do so from a non-frontal aspect. I try to degrade them sub-system wise as much as I can before engaging them with anything other than tanks. Or I sacrifice ATGM launchers by hitting them with missiles (and maybe kill them outright)  to degrade them even if they dont penetrate (the launcher gets killed) then engage with tanks, making it easy and obtaining favorable exchange ratios.

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    Proof BMP-2s do fire ATGMs

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    Posted · Edited by antaress73

    2 hours ago, Sublime said:

    Please do im eagerly awaiting any proof you have at all of 2ms firing their kornets. Im waiting.

    I'll send you some stuff later , setup a Quick battle and take some screen shots/ videos  . Im not at home right now (playing with my Kids at the park) 

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    Proof BMP-2s do fire ATGMs

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    Posted · Edited by antaress73

    2 hours ago, John Kettler said:

    Abdolmartin,

    That may very well be the issue Sublime was so rightly upset about, rather than the ordinary BMP-2s.

    Regards,

    John Kettler

    Sublime was upset about the BMP-2s not firing their Kornets. 

    I played à few games lately and they do fire their kornets .. i've killed MANY Abrams that were previously damaged/degraded with arty and other assets. They need to be veteran, +1 leadership and  high motivation to fire them all .. their full loads at Abrams.

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